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Personal logo John the OFM Supporting Member of TMP23 Jul 2013 5:26 a.m. PST

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This is the snobbery of shrinking back in horror from those sheep who enjoy things that you personally do not like.
Some people are simply not willing to tolerate … all kinds of harmless things.
Like Empire V, DBX, Flames of War…

Yes, I am calling the Haters "snobs".

so, is there such a word?

(And in all honesty, I have been known to mock the fans of DBX in a smug superior way, if only because I had high hopes for it before it got out of hand. I thought it would be .. simple! grin)

Personal logo John the OFM Supporting Member of TMP23 Jul 2013 5:31 a.m. PST

Of course, Mencken defined "puritanism" as "the haunting fear that someone, somewhere might be happy."

Dynaman878923 Jul 2013 5:36 a.m. PST

You really need to do something about the persecution complex…

Personal logo John the OFM Supporting Member of TMP23 Jul 2013 5:39 a.m. PST

Oh, I see. You must play the "popular" games that are beyond reproach.

I have decided to reserve my Hate for people whose life is centered around Hating. And sneering.

Meiczyslaw23 Jul 2013 5:39 a.m. PST

It is one of the reasons why I've decided that cities are bad for people. They warp you into caring what other people are doing because they can't help but do it where you cannot escape it.

For example: when I go into town, I can't help but think cigarettes should be illegal, because their butts are scattered everywhere. When I'm at the ranch, the thought never enters my mind.

Keraunos23 Jul 2013 6:04 a.m. PST

maybe,
but cities are also the enabler of individual freedom, for there is anonymity in a city which enables you to escape the conformity expected of the small town and village dweller.

plus, you don't have to marry your cousin just to get a ride.

aedwards23 Jul 2013 6:08 a.m. PST

Both of you guys have it wrong. City and rural life are enablers to a desirable form of living, depending upon your tastes. It is suburban life that sucks the soul right out of you.

Dynaman878923 Jul 2013 6:17 a.m. PST

> Oh, I see. You must play the "popular" games that are beyond reproach.

No, but I don't start a whinny thread every month complaining about those who complain.

As for cities and Rural.
City – too crowded
Rural – NOBODY gets in your business like rural folks. The LIKE to believe they value freedom, but only so long as you go along…
Suburbs – souls are over rated anyway.

15th Hussar23 Jul 2013 6:23 a.m. PST

Rural – NOBODY gets in your business like rural folks. The LIKE to believe they value freedom, but only so long as you go along…

Nailed that one right on the head, there, Dynaman.

darthfozzywig23 Jul 2013 6:26 a.m. PST

Who makes busybody rural neighbors in 10mm?

How about uptown progressive control freaks in 15mm?

M C MonkeyDew23 Jul 2013 6:33 a.m. PST

??

Doug em4miniatures23 Jul 2013 6:58 a.m. PST

This thread seems to have quickly gone off-topic. Having read the article the op linked to, can't help but agree.

Still not happy with this indiscriminate use of the "H" word, though.

Was that Mencken? I always thought it was aimed at Oliver Cromwell but maybe not.

Doug

Personal logo John the OFM Supporting Member of TMP23 Jul 2013 7:12 a.m. PST

This thread seems to have quickly gone off-topic.

I believe it may be a new TMP record. *grin

Space Monkey23 Jul 2013 7:17 a.m. PST

A dog chasing its tail.

jpattern223 Jul 2013 7:19 a.m. PST

And the quote was definitely Mencken.

A variation that I've seen is, "Someone is having fun in an unapproved fashion. Can't have that."

Ed Mohrmann23 Jul 2013 7:24 a.m. PST

Rural – NOBODY gets in your business like rural folks. The LIKE to believe they value freedom, but only so long as you go along

You must be familiar with a far different 'rural'
than I am. Down here in NC, folks don't tend to other
folks' business as much as they do in, say, New Jersey
(and BTW, I was born in New Jersey and still have some
family there).

As far as 'rural,' we live about 10 miles from town,
on a gravel road, and can't quite throw a rock to the
nearest neighbor's property.

Sergeant Paper23 Jul 2013 7:32 a.m. PST

I prefer to game Rural Busybodies using wrassling action figures and Lego bricks.

Pizzagrenadier23 Jul 2013 9:22 a.m. PST

*shrug.

RedSaber23 Jul 2013 9:30 a.m. PST

<sigh>

OSchmidt23 Jul 2013 10:26 a.m. PST

I can't be sure my translation from English to German is correct, but it might be. There is no term so I am suggesting one.

I nominate for the term of deriding or hating someone else likes as

(wait for it)… "Sneerfreude."

Definition- "Those people who take an exceptional pleasure in deriding or denigrating an item, food, beverage, activity, or concept that another person finds delicious, pleasurable, valuable, satisfying or fun.

Its close to "Schadenfreude" which means deriving pleasure from someone elses sadness or misery. So I'm gonna go with it. Sneer is the same in English and German

Space Monkey23 Jul 2013 11:04 a.m. PST

"I sneer at your sneering at his sneering at the other guy who is sneering at the rest of them!"
Eventually the dog catches its tail and we are all shone to be in questionable positions.

Ron W DuBray23 Jul 2013 11:51 a.m. PST

I'm not a snob I just don't like what GW has done to a game I used to play a lot and don't get to play any more, I also can't pay their prices for one mini the used to be their price of 20 minis.

Dynaman878923 Jul 2013 12:32 p.m. PST

> Down here in NC, folks don't tend to other folks' business as much as they do in, say, New Jersey

I had relatives in rural NC, and will leave it at "your wrong".

bobspruster Supporting Member of TMP23 Jul 2013 12:36 p.m. PST

I smoke, live rural, work urban and never, ever throw by cigarette butts on the ground. So there.
Bob

Yesthatphil23 Jul 2013 3:17 p.m. PST

I just think some people enjoy things that are _not part of _my leisure interest and while I would defend their right to enjoy their stuff I do sniff at being implicated in their 'one big hobby'.

Does it really make anyone a snob that they wish to distinguish between those things they do and/or find worthy and those things they don't? Previous generations would have just thought it was having a critical faculty.

FWIW I don't think the link or its implications has anything to do with wargame turf disputes, I don't recognise the whole love/hate thing (beloved of TMP) as in any way representative of how wargamers really think* … and I consider royal baby fever no more than a minority interest within the UK (forelock tuggers in the media and editors who want to sell tomorrow's chip paper should never be thought of as in any way reflecting public opinion or interest**)

Phil
* well informed and tolerant is how I find most of thme.
**genuinely I have yet to meet anyone who is taking any of the silly hullabaloo at all seriously …

Pijlie23 Jul 2013 9:39 p.m. PST

(wait for it)… "Sneerfreude."

Definition- "Those people who take an exceptional pleasure in deriding or denigrating an item, food, beverage, activity, or concept that another person finds delicious, pleasurable, valuable, satisfying or fun.<q/>

I believe the technique was -if not invented- perfected by Statler and Waldorff….

TamsinP24 Jul 2013 5:51 a.m. PST

A variation that I've seen is, "Someone is having fun in an unapproved fashion. Can't have that."

Something like this?

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sumerandakkad24 Jul 2013 7:00 a.m. PST

The OFM is correct as is Kevin Williamson the writer of the articles. Definitely, a sneering snobbish attitude. Whatever happened to live and let live? And that includes rule usage.

SECURITY MINISTER CRITTER24 Jul 2013 12:10 p.m. PST

Rural – NOBODY gets in your business like rural folks. The LIKE to believe they value freedom, but only so long as you go along

You must be familiar with a far different 'rural'


You must live in a better "rural" than I have! Don't get me started on those inbred East Texas busybodies…
I really don't care how others have fun as long as they don't trample on mine!

EMPIRE IS THE BEST RULES SET EVER, RIGHT AFTER TSATF!

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