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SECURITY MINISTER CRITTER16 Jul 2013 2:38 p.m. PST

So I started sorting my Austrians on Friday night, and discovered I had equal(more or less) amounts of pre and post 1805 Infantry and later Grenadiers.
So my question is, which period should I focus on and obtain more troops for?

Glengarry516 Jul 2013 2:42 p.m. PST

My preference would be for the later years when the Austrians could put up a better fight.

Florida Tory16 Jul 2013 2:43 p.m. PST

Both, of course. One simply never stops raising forces when one is gaming in the Napoleonic period. I've never seen or heard an Austrian commander object if the reinforcements were uniformed in a style that technically belonged to a different year.

Rick

Battle Phlox16 Jul 2013 2:49 p.m. PST

Which ever ones you want to paint more of.

SECURITY MINISTER CRITTER16 Jul 2013 2:50 p.m. PST

Wait till you see my next question…

Personal logo Saber6 Supporting Member of TMP Fezian16 Jul 2013 3:06 p.m. PST

1809 would allow you to use both

Natholeon16 Jul 2013 3:11 p.m. PST

Saber6 is correct 1809 is your friend. I believe that the Hungarian regiments recieved the shako first, but it is the only period to be able to use both headwear types.

79thPA Supporting Member of TMP16 Jul 2013 3:12 p.m. PST

I vote for 1809 as well.

vtsaogames16 Jul 2013 3:19 p.m. PST

Yes, 1809 allows you to use both. That's how mine are done, although it doesn't stop me from using them for Marengo or for Leipzig.

A friend with Russians did them for 1812, with a mix of pre-1812 and 1812 (Kiver uniforms). No army changed all of their uniforms at once because HQ dictated it.

Personal logo Saber6 Supporting Member of TMP Fezian16 Jul 2013 3:24 p.m. PST

And for 1809 you can build @ 10 Corps of troops!

heavyhorse16 Jul 2013 3:33 p.m. PST

go for 1809 its the best of both worlds..good troops variety in headgear and big battalions..whats not to love

SECURITY MINISTER CRITTER16 Jul 2013 3:56 p.m. PST

As an aside, as I was going through the French, there was a bag I had labeled "Early War French" per my friend Randy's instructions when we sorted the lot. Not French at all, but a big Scrum of… Landwher!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I figure at least 50 or more, to ad to the 20 that were already in with the Austrians.

Rrobbyrobot16 Jul 2013 4:10 p.m. PST

That does it! 1809 is mighty fine!

Edwulf16 Jul 2013 5:02 p.m. PST

I prefer the shako.

Purely because I think they look smarter and more napoleonic. Easier to paint aswell.

SECURITY MINISTER CRITTER16 Jul 2013 5:16 p.m. PST

Well being able to use them together just doubled my infantry
forces.

DOUGKL16 Jul 2013 5:41 p.m. PST

My Austrian's were done for the 1809 period. I have both types of headgear. If you have someone who's going to nitpick tell him to paint his own or shut up and play.

Frederick Supporting Member of TMP16 Jul 2013 5:59 p.m. PST

1809 – just paint all your new guys in shakos so you can do 1813 too!

Widowson16 Jul 2013 7:50 p.m. PST

Nobody is going to kick you off an 1813 tabletop because some of your Austrians are wearing helmets.

The idea of painting all those white-clad figures makes me think I would want as many variations as I could, just to keep from going nuts.

Sparker16 Jul 2013 9:57 p.m. PST

Helmet every time. Its entirely possible that an 1809 or 1813 Kaiserlich was still helmeted, but extremely unlikely that his 1800 or 1805 counterpart would be bimbling around in a shako ahead of time – even if his dad was the QM….

Cerdic16 Jul 2013 10:38 p.m. PST

Helmets. Because everyone else had shakos…..

nsolomon9916 Jul 2013 11:47 p.m. PST

Agree with comments above. 1809 is a good choice for you – both helmets and shakos, first campaign with Landwehr, its well documented, the Austrian army fought well, you can then also do 1812 in Russia, 1813 & 14 in Germany & France and 1815 in Italy – what's not to like?

Nick

deflatermouse17 Jul 2013 5:08 a.m. PST

not much more to add other than another for 1809. (Started mine in '91).
Germans in Helmet and Hungarians in Shako. Later had some spare shakos so did them as Germans.
Still fighting well….well.

lapatrie8825 Jul 2013 2:25 p.m. PST

White uniforms, but also blue trousers for the Hungarians, and all those different facings colors. And Landwehr, Grenzers and Jaegers dont wear white coats at all. 1809 is a good year.

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