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jimklein196607 Jun 2013 6:42 p.m. PST

This time around we tried out two fleets that are very fragile, very fast, very maneuverable and heavily Stealth-ed. For those of you that are familiar with the Eldar from Battle Fleet Gothic, I tried to stick to the theme of the ships. Hard to hit but once damage they fall apart quick. My opponent decided to fly his white stars in two flotillas of three with two other ships operating independently. I had a feeling the game was going to look more like some kind of aerial dog fight rather than a typical spaceship game. That's exactly what happened.

First the mat. I just received this from Corsec Engineering. Its their red nebula #2 and is amazingly vibrant. So much so that taking pictures of red ships against it was extremely difficult.

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And now to the fleets.

ELDAR

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The White Star Fleet

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Unfortunately for (the Eldar) a great many of my systems would be moot in this battle. ECM, ADS, etc. On the other hand, his needle beams would be just as useless as long as my Holofields remained operational.

Turn One saw both fleets, esp the white stars split up to get around the asteroid fields and envelope the enemy. I was pretty cocky I admit. After all, I'm fighting against ships that looked like small plucked chickens.

The Reaper was able to line up one flotilla of White stars and vaporized all of them in one volley with its twin spinal mounts. Unfortunately one of the fighter squadrons the Eclipse launched got in the way and was destroyed as well.

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The next turn was a complete disaster for the Eldar. I had badly miscalculated the turns for the Eclipse and Aurora. Ive been too accustomed to playing ships with conventional engines. The idea was to maneuver around the asteroid field. Both ships ended up in it prompting us to look up the rules for what happens as neither of us have ever flown ships into asteroids.

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Long story short- at the speed i was traveling (17) there was no hope of any ship surviving so both were destroyed outright. With half my firepower now wreckage all over some floating space rock things were looking bad.

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The next several turns both fleets flew back and forth unable to line up any shots despite our broad firing arcs. More often then not we ended up tail end right behind one another or too far away to fire because of our stealth hulls. Only my surviving fighter squadron was able to do any damage but it continuously had to use its secondary moves to get in behind the whit stars where they were vulnerable. Consequently fuel became an issue quickly and after three turns they ran out of gas and became spectators.

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After five turns of chasing each other around the shadow cruiser and Nightshade destroyer ended up head on with one flotilla of white stars at point blank range where the stealth hulls did no good. Again, bad luck for me had my opponent winning the initiative and he fired one of his ships Gatling Batteries virtually gutting the Shadow cruiser. I returned fire with the Nighshade and missed with all of its weapons- typical. The next white star in line destroyed the Shadow. The Eldar Reaper cruiser was out of position and was unable to fire on any ship. The last white stars fired and destroyed the Nightshade. at that point we decided to call the battle.

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All in all the Eldar ships worked pretty much as I expected despite their destruction. This was about the worst kind of battle for them to be in – against an opponent that they couldn't capitalize on their superior speed, maneuverability and stealth. Hopefully next time i can try them out against a more "traditional" navy.

Any and all comments welcome!!!!

GypsyComet07 Jun 2013 7:41 p.m. PST

Was I not paying attention when they did the Reaper, or is it a conversion?

Personal logo optional field Supporting Member of TMP07 Jun 2013 7:59 p.m. PST

Interesting idea for a battle. I always thought of the Eldar and the Minbari (and the White Stars are Minbari ships) as extremely similar to each other. Thus it's not surprising the Eldar didn't work as expected; they were more or less fighting other Eldar.

jimklein196607 Jun 2013 8:12 p.m. PST

Gypsy- the reaper is a conversion albiet a GW inspired one. One of the specialist games guys posted an article about it years ago along with advice and parts list on how to build it. I think its actual name was Shadow Killer.

Optional- thats pretty much my feeling as well tho if half my fleet hadnt killed itself i might have been able to bracket the white stars and kill them.

Crucible Orc07 Jun 2013 10:00 p.m. PST

looks like an interesting battle.

I don't really thin the White star main laser was a needle beam. needle beams aren't strafing weapons, and whitestars often strafed their targets.

tkdguy07 Jun 2013 10:17 p.m. PST

Nice write-up, both of the ships and the AAR.

TheBeast Supporting Member of TMP08 Jun 2013 7:23 a.m. PST

Eldar vs. elder (amongst the young races). Damn near a civil unpleasantness.

Inspired!

Throw in "Shadow Killer", which sounds like a B5 ref, and it's down right eerie. ;->=

Doug

jimklein196608 Jun 2013 12:25 p.m. PST

Crucible- i agree w you there. it always more 'Graser like' to me. Chalk it up to artistic license.

TheBeast- lol..I know. there is alot of stuff that GW has ripped off from a wide range of sci-fi and fantasy genres. I didnt much care for the Shadow Killer name so i changed it. Reaper seemed more appropriate.

Coelacanth08 Jun 2013 3:59 p.m. PST

Thanks for the AAR and pictures! It makes me want to play Full Thrust again.

Ron

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