| green beanie | 03 Jun 2013 9:06 p.m. PST |
Did the Germans ever mount their 2 cm flak guns on to trucks? I have seen half tracks & tanks used for self propelled mounts for them but never a truck. I know that some 3.7 cm flak guns were truck mounted so was wondering about the 2 cm quad? |
| Kaoschallenged | 03 Jun 2013 9:15 p.m. PST |
In Africa
Being pulled up on the back of an Opel Blitz
Robert
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| green beanie | 03 Jun 2013 9:19 p.m. PST |
Thanks Robert, I was wondering about the Quad 2 cm flak guns. Any of the truck mounted quads? |
| Kaoschallenged | 03 Jun 2013 9:22 p.m. PST |
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| green beanie | 03 Jun 2013 9:26 p.m. PST |
That is great. Looks to be a Bussing Nag truck. Did the 3 ton Opel Bliz ever get used? |
| Kaoschallenged | 03 Jun 2013 9:30 p.m. PST |
I'm not sure about the Quad 20mm. But the photo of the 20mm being pulled on to the bed of a truck is an Opel Blitz. Robert |
| Richard Baber | 03 Jun 2013 10:00 p.m. PST |
Esci certainly did a kit of the Quad on a Opel Blitz (when I was a lad :-) It is quite a big set-up – the Quad 20mm, I`m not sure there would be enough room on the deck of a Blitz to comfortably operate the guns properly with all the ammo, crew, hot barrels, etc, etc……… The weight of the FlaKvierling 38 is 1509kg thats just about max for the Opel too. |
| Porkmann | 03 Jun 2013 10:03 p.m. PST |
That looks more like an armoured Sdkfz 7 to me. The Germans mounted almost any gun on any chassis at some time. Field conversions were very very widespread. That said I have never seen a Flakvierling on a truck. I have seen Hotchkiss 6 pounders on 251s though… Go for it. |
| green beanie | 03 Jun 2013 10:19 p.m. PST |
Porkmann, that is an armoured cab Bussing Nag 5 ton truck pictured. The same truck was used for also the 3.7 cm flak & 5 cm flak gun. |
| Gunbird | 03 Jun 2013 10:29 p.m. PST |
Only the heaviest trucks (like that Bussing 5 ton) could cope with the weight etc of a Quad. A Blitz definately not. |
| emckinney | 03 Jun 2013 10:36 p.m. PST |
"It is quite a big set-up – the Quad 20mm, I`m not sure there would be enough room on the deck of a Blitz to comfortably operate the guns properly with all the ammo, crew, hot barrels, etc, etc………" The sides and rear of the truck bed folded down to extend the deck. |
| green beanie | 03 Jun 2013 11:00 p.m. PST |
That is what I had thought, but a few weeks ago Rudi the German posted a picture of a Krupp Protz with a 8.8 cm flak gun mounted on it so it made me wonder about the quads on truck beds. I would still like to see the truck Rudi posted firing the 8.8 cm to see what it did to the trucks frame for until he posted the pic I thought the critter did not ever happen for I still find it hard to imagine an 88 on such a small truck. |
| PaulTimms | 04 Jun 2013 12:51 a.m. PST |
Not sure they were common as I could only turn up this and I'm not 100% sure it's a Blitz.
Personally this is my favourite, created by SchwPzjgr 653's maintenance company using a T34, a 251's hull plates and obviously a quad 20mm.
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| Kaoschallenged | 04 Jun 2013 1:06 a.m. PST |
The photo of the Quad 20mm is of a up-armored Mercedes 4500 serving as a platform for a Quad 2omm Flakvierling. Robert |
| Kaoschallenged | 04 Jun 2013 1:14 a.m. PST |
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| Kaoschallenged | 04 Jun 2013 1:23 a.m. PST |
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| Martin Rapier | 04 Jun 2013 2:07 a.m. PST |
I don't think the truck mounted quads were hugely common (SP quads in general weren't that common, despite what wargamers like to field!). They did exist however. I have precisely one model of one, made up from the Frontine generic flak truck model and a spare quad. |
| Kaoschallenged | 04 Jun 2013 7:39 p.m. PST |
I hope that some of this helps green beanie. Robert |
| green beanie | 05 Jun 2013 6:30 a.m. PST |
More than helped Robert. I hope I can some day return the favor. Now I have to get a L4500 to mount a quad on for my DAK. |
snapped some photos of games he didn't get a chance to play in at Council of Five Nations.
