"Identifying some Napoleonic cavalry figures in 15mm" Topic

I've got some figures I'm trying to identify that I received second-hand. Tall plume that is narrower at the top than the bottom, braids down the front of his jacket, no pelisse, shako, armed with saber and a carbine.

Not sure the make of the figures but they are 15mm and not Old Glory or Battle Honors. I don't think they are AB or CGM either.

A photo can be seen here:

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The detail on the shako is a many pointed star that is close to a circle in shape due to the number of points.

The jacket appears largely like pelisse with the front cord braids but has no fur on it.

Armament is a carbine (slung) and a saber.

Trousers or overalls have a row of buttons up the side.

At the base of the plume above the decoration there is a circular knob of sorts.

The physical size of the miniature works with OG15s and the detail level is similar (hard to tell with the priming and partial paint job on em) but they are all about identical (there are 12) which rules out OG15s and Battle Honors due to their variations. Also the horses do not appear to be either brand. I am pretty sure they aren't AB either.

Cheers,

The Bandit

They look like early Russian Hussars based on the plume. The one horse standing looks like a early Battle Honors horse.

Total guess that they are Brunswick Hussars…

Regards
James

I never considered them being early war figures… hmm. They are good for early war Russian hussars but for the lack of a pelisse.

I don't think they are Brunswickers due to the decoration on the shako being a star but I don't know a lot about Brunswick.

After looking at them again my earlier statement about the horses is wrong, I believe Von Blucher is correct and they are Battle Honor's horses. Not sure if they are BH15 figures though…

Cheers,

The Bandit

I don't know but I have yet to see a Russian with
horse hair on the front of his shako. Here is a
Brunswick hussar;

Regards
James

Based upon the plume I would suggest that they are Polish Hussars maybe the 13th Regiment

The shako decoration is a circle but with the plume holder sticking up it looks a little like a star

BH figures and horses certainly. I think early Russian Hussars. They had the falling plume. Might be Polish hussars as stated above, but I cant tell the shako plate.

john

Early Napoleonic Russian Hussars; they frequently wore either dolman or pelisse on campaign, rarely both.

They look very much like early Russian Hussars from either AB or Battle Honours range.
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Regards, Bill

Check the Eureka site here for early Russian Hussars. As Battle Honors dosen't produce an early Russian Hussar.

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General Brock,

They could be Brunswick hussars but the emblem on the shako would be wrong.

Mapleleaf,

Same issue for them being Polish hussars.

VonBlucher,

I think you are right comparing the figure and the picture from AB.

Thanks for the help everyone!

Cheers,

The Bandit

If they hadn't got the carbine I would have suggested Prussian, mounted infantry officers as they look rather like Funckens'picture of 1st Guard's officer.

Okay so L+F aren't the most reliable of sources, but Heritage modelled their British general personality set direct from a certain film starring Mr Steiger.

The figures in the link are AB early period Russian Hussars, on AB light cav horses. I've painted lots of these figs.
According to contemp sources esp the famous 'Elbefeld' manuscript, several Russian Hussar Regts (inc the Isum and Elizavetgrad from memory) wore this old pattern tall shako as late as 1814, though prob without the big plume.

I cheated and saw the update.

All three of my guesses were wrong.

Why I continue visiting and participating in this charade of self-debasement is still beyond me.