| Only Warlock | 29 May 2013 10:30 a.m. PST |
I have become less and less enchanted FoW with each GW recycling of their "Codexes" so I have decided to stop playing it. I am instead retasking my vast Soviet and German forces to use with Bolt Action. I have been doing a lot of Force on Force, Tomorrow's War, and 5150 SA skirmish and 15mm feels like a better skirmish scale to me. having a 12" SMG range in 15mm seems more reasonable than in 28mm. Is anyone else doing the same? |
| nazrat | 29 May 2013 11:09 a.m. PST |
I have always played Arc of Fire, Disposable Heroes, and Rules of Engagement in 15mm with individually based models, and now Battlegroup Kursk as well. It has always made the ranges "look" better to me. |
| snodipous | 29 May 2013 11:24 a.m. PST |
What makes you think Bolt Action will be immune to the codex conveyor-belt problems that you have with GW and FoW? It's another point-based history-light miniatures game with a supporting line of miniatures and separate forces books for each army, written, no less, by GW veterans. In other words, it fits exactly into the same mould that spawned the games you are fed up with. I will be absolutely gobsmacked if there isn't a 2nd edition Bolt Action rulebook within a few years, and slightly redesigned army books for all the factions to go with it. Disclaimer: I play BA and FoW, and I have fun with both. |
| snodipous | 29 May 2013 11:30 a.m. PST |
Back to the subject at hand, are your 15mm minis multi-based in the FoW style, or based singly? If based singly, why not use Force On Force for your 15mm WW2 needs? I haven't tried Force On Force WW2 yet, but I really like the FoF rules and I think I'll be using them for my WW2 skirmish games from now on. |
 Extra Crispy  | 29 May 2013 11:38 a.m. PST |
Looked at BA, tried it, walked away. Very bland. I like my games fast but these were just way too lightweight for even me. Back to Nuts for me… |
| Only Warlock | 29 May 2013 11:51 a.m. PST |
AA Games is coming out with a WWII version of FoF I'll play when it comes out. I picked up Bolt Action because of the production values and people seem to be having a lot of fun with it. (the same reason I picked up the ORIGINAL FoW) I really like the play flow. It may eventually get the GW-itis, but has not yet so I can live with that. The thing that got me with battlefront was when they bollixed up the Eastern Front stuff so bad (During the 2nd ed-3rd ed transition) it invalidated my new Army book almost immediately after I bought it. it became confusing and frustrating and I just threw up my hands in frustration. I have tons of "Crunchy" rulesets for WWII Skirmish, but I want a game I can set up, play and get done in an evening without spending 2 hours looking up rules, |
| kiltboy | 29 May 2013 12:25 p.m. PST |
I use guys based for Fow in my IABSM games. Works well and the spare loose figures I have I plan on using for the new Chain of Command rules from Toofatlardies. David |
| Privateer4hire | 29 May 2013 2:08 p.m. PST |
I play BA in 15mm and with the WarLord minis (not at the same time). Works fine and the tanks are actually better scaled in 15mm with their brethren infantry, IMO. |
| Ark3nubis | 29 May 2013 3:13 p.m. PST |
I think 12" SMG range when rifles are 24" is just not right, especially when most rules allow move and fire with them. A 6" move with 6"-9" SMG range is much more like it I think. Defo smaller vehicles are better. Nothing worse than a vehicle moving 6" when the model is 6". 15mm infantry minis individually based (especially when on UK 5p coins, not 1p) look really good and feel right. That mixed with the ranges feeling more like it mane for a very different game, Ark3n |
| Rudysnelson | 30 May 2013 4:22 a.m. PST |
The gaming group in Montgamery AL plays B-A in 15mm. I found out last weekend, Several gaming groups in Nashville area play B-A in 20mm. |
| Rudysnelson | 30 May 2013 8:00 a.m. PST |
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| Porkmann | 30 May 2013 1:59 p.m. PST |
I am doing BA in 28 and 20mm may do some 15mm armies too – God knows I have enough stuff lying around. |
| yorkie o1 | 20 Jul 2013 1:42 p.m. PST |
Hi, Im doing bolt action in 15mm, with re-based battlefront models…. link Steve |
| SpifneR | 21 Aug 2013 6:07 a.m. PST |
Yep, I got disillusioned with FOW. Tried many "crunchy" free rule sets from the net. Tried using FOF with the AA download for WWII you can get from Osprey and it worked really well. That said I bought the BA rules last week and played against my son at the weekend and we were both blown away by just how well the game worked. We played 650pts British vs Germans from the rulebook a lists, using 15mm FOW figures on a 4'x4' board. Scale worked brilliantly, well worth a try! So good I bought the two army books on Monday. At £15.00 GBP each vs £30.00 GBP For GW books it is well worth it….  |
| rodvik | 22 Aug 2013 8:19 p.m. PST |
My son and I do Bolt Action in 15mm. Works perfectly. I hope FOW continues to thrive, the 15mm WW2 boom has made playing Bolt Action very cheap :) |
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