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wrgmr117 May 2013 8:39 p.m. PST

Chris Leach, Author of "Battles for Empire", Co-Author of "Shako 2" and Scenario book for Shako "Fields of Glory"
Is presenting for the first time publicly at Enfilade next weekend his new revised rule set, "Battles for Empire 2"

More streamlined for easy fast play with innovative systems, it will be great success for Colonial Gaming.
Zulu Wars, Boxer Rebellion, Sudan and Afghanistan will be the main focus for these rules but they can be used for any colonial time period.
A World War 1 supplement is planned.

I've personally played these rules many times and find them a fun, fast set you can play in a few hours.
Keep and eye open for this game Saturday morning.

Alcibiades17 May 2013 9:18 p.m. PST

That's great news. Been waiting for the second edition for some time. Will be placing an order as soon as they are available.

Thanks for the news.


Personal logo David Manley Supporting Member of TMP17 May 2013 10:32 p.m. PST

Good news indeed!

stenicplus18 May 2013 2:25 a.m. PST


deflatermouse18 May 2013 3:04 a.m. PST


Shedman18 May 2013 3:47 a.m. PST

Like +1

I've used the original set for Spanish American War & Russo-Japanese War

Yankees Supporting Member of TMP18 May 2013 4:08 a.m. PST

Good stuff! Joining the yahoo group now. How do you order?

mashrewba18 May 2013 7:29 a.m. PST

Good news -what is the basing like for these -I've nosed around on the Internet but I can't work it out.Do all units have the same frontage? Are hand to hand types double the depth of regular units? My stuff is based on 90mm or 45mm frontages.

Justin Credible18 May 2013 8:13 a.m. PST

I'm another keen to know of the base sizes.

wrgmr118 May 2013 8:39 a.m. PST

There is no mandatory basing scheme for BFE2, any consistent basing scheme is usable with these rules.

Recommended frontage basing is as follows.
25mm Drilled foot 15mm x 4 stands
15mm Drilled foot 8mm x 4 stands
25mm Skirmishing Boers 23mm x 4 stands one is horse holder
15mm skirmishing Boers 12mm X 4 stands one is horse holder
Drilled dismounted cavalry same as Boers.
25mm Native Massed foot 30mm x 2 stands
15mm Native Massed foot 15mm x 2 stands
25mm Drilled cavalry or camels 20mm x 4 stands
15mm Drilled cavalry or camels 10mm x 4 stands
25mm Boer mounted same as massed foot
15mm Boer mounted same as massed foot
25mm Native Massed Mounted 40mm x 2 stands
15mm Native Massed Mounted 20mm x 2 stands

25mm foot 30mm
15mm foot 15mm
25mm mounted 50mm
15mm mounted 25mm

As long as your basing is fairly consistent with the number of stands, these rules will work.

stefanov18 May 2013 12:09 p.m. PST

These are great news indeed.
I hope he will amend the rules on the stand sizes. I find a bit odd to base the whole ruleset on the usage of stands, and have still suggestions for frontage occupied by individual figures.
Apart from this, rules are just GREAT, i am eager to see this new edition!

CATenWolde18 May 2013 1:50 p.m. PST

I'm confused about the stand notation …

25mm Drilled foot 15mm x 4 stands

So this means that the per figure frontage should be 15mm, and there are 4 stands per unit? But how many figures per stand?

Anyway … if I have all my figures mounted on 40mm frontage bases, I'm sure there's a way to play, right? That's all that really matters.



wrgmr118 May 2013 2:46 p.m. PST

25mm Drilled foot 15mm frontage for the whole stand 4 stands per unit.
Thus 4 stands 15mm wide each total of 60 mm wide for the unit.

I feel you can use pretty much any basing as long as it is consistent. These are just his recommendations.

vtsaogames18 May 2013 9:53 p.m. PST

15mm wide stands for 25mm figures? How many can you fit on such a stand? I'm thoroughly confused.

wrgmr119 May 2013 9:16 a.m. PST

Sorry gents,
28mm figures Drilled regulars- 15mm of base per figure. Thus a 3 figure stand is 45mm.

We use 3 figures per stand 45mm wide.

Massed are 6 figures per stand on a 90 mm wide by 60mm deep stand. The six figures are 3 front row and 3 back row, mixed up a bit to show a mass of troops. 2 stands per unit.

The Idea is that you can have more or less figures as long as the per figure basing is consistent. You don't have to use the 15mm per figure, as long as it is consistent.

A Boxer Rebellion game we played.


Europeans in 4 stand 12 figures units.
Boxers in Mass 2 stand 12 figure units.


vtsaogames19 May 2013 12:50 p.m. PST

OK, thanks. That's clearer.

mashrewba19 May 2013 1:46 p.m. PST

Excellent and fits in with how mine are based which I wasn't expecting-thanks wrgmr1!!
Have you got a link to those photos I'd like to see them in more detail-looking good.

wrgmr119 May 2013 2:37 p.m. PST

My photo bucket keeps getting high jacked. It goes to this:

Here's some on Flicker I could show you.


VicCina Supporting Member of TMP05 Aug 2013 8:18 p.m. PST

So where can one pick up these rules?

stenicplus07 Aug 2013 5:39 a.m. PST


They are pdf so can be bought online as e-copy or CD:

Durando05 Jul 2018 10:30 a.m. PST


For trained regulars what base depth do you use for these…

I should say I am using Gringos40 28mm

Durando05 Jul 2018 10:30 a.m. PST


For trained regulars what base depth do you use for these…

I should say I am using Gringos40 28mm

Royal Marine05 Jul 2018 2:47 p.m. PST

A five year gap between question and last post!

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