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AWuuuu17 May 2013 2:09 p.m. PST

Here is my PSC Tiger in 1:100 scale (so 15mm)
I applied a zimmerit coating to the tank
paste was made with liquid green stuff, but effect are unsatisfactory, i do not recommend it.
Next one will be done with standard green stuff.
Test parts are much better looking but i fear for the details

Tank itself is quite Ok, but i gave to paint zimmerit chippings with light grey paste color as fresh chippings, because undercoat rotbraun color wouldn't stand out from dark brown camo i chosen without giving it too much thought..

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More shots on my blog
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PS:
Here is how it looked before painting

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Rudi the german17 May 2013 3:21 p.m. PST

Hi,

The white undercoat effect is stange and did not exist.

It would be the anti rust colour or dark yellow under the zimmerit paste.
He doesen look right…. And i think i know what it is….

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Take a look at the wheels: you build it with the extra frontwheel… I think that this extra wheel was not used together with zimmerit….take a look at the 312 of the 505. This is one of the dunkelgeld/ brown tigerstipes /semi- zimmerit tigers.


Greetings

Garand17 May 2013 8:27 p.m. PST

Hi,

For a Tiger with Zimmerit, Awuuu's build is accurate. Rudi's picture shows a late Tiger I with steel wheels. However, there were 3 "main" models of the Tiger, of which the later 2 could have Zimmerit:

Early: Drum cupola and rubber tyred road wheels. Usually no zimmerit

Middle: Dome cupola and rubber tyred road wheels. ZImmerit

Late: dome cupola and steel road wheels. Zimmerit.

Damon.

AWuuuu18 May 2013 2:47 a.m. PST

Yup. As Garand said road wheels are correct. You mistaken models.
This one is mid production delivered in late 43.

Model has some historical inaccuracies, but nothing major really.

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There were situations (field refits, or field repair that saw somee wheel removal like here:

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even on old cupola variant (early)
But basic tank had 4 wheels in uppermost layer.

Anyway, Tigerology is quite interesting topic of knowledge
with over 1350 built and many surviving up to 1945 from different production batches and with such distinguished recognizable tanks and units, but PSC supplies only stock versions (road wheels are single part)classic with full set of rubber tyred wheels and late with full compartment of late full metal wheels.

As to color, Its not undercoat, Its light grey zimmeritt itself.
When chipped it usually fell off to ground color with light gray edge of raw zimmerit.
But sometimes only upper layer of paste was chipped off. Thats more probably with short time after chippings occurred. Later rest fell off and edges got dirty.
Thats how this looks on bigger scale models when done properly.
(random photo from the net – not mine)

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(under the gray chippings lays original factory rotbraun undercoat that i cannot visibly replicate )

You have to remember that paste itself was of similar in color to naked concrete.

Garand18 May 2013 8:16 a.m. PST

I'm not sure what the referece to Zimmerit color is, but this article suggests different:

track-link.com/articles/15

zimmerit was a mixture of polyvinyl acetate, 25%, which formed the matrix, 10% saw dust used as a filler. Additionally Zimmerit included 40% barium sulphate and 10% zinc sulphide in the mix, but the report did not state why. Its dark yellow colour was achieved with the addition of 15% ochre pigment.

Damon.

AWuuuu18 May 2013 2:28 p.m. PST

Thats interesting.
I have to search for some source material on this ochre pigment additions.

Ive read it had plain plaster/concrete color.

AWuuuu19 May 2013 4:51 a.m. PST

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hmm
chipped ochre zimmerit looks more like beige when exposed..

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