"Iron Man vs. Batman" Topic

Ok, yeah, it's a topic that is as old as the comic industry and likely has been done to death.

If you take the basic versions of both, the question is, does Bats have a chance?

The batarangs likley will not penetrate and the rope-a-rang trick probably won't hold Iron Man for long, if at all. Punching/fighting Iron Man is like sumo wrestling a tank. Batman may be totally outclassed.

Iron Man can likely target by heat. So does the stealth-ninja aspect of Batman work versus this?

Batman has the car, but Iron Man's armor trumps this. Batman can move fairly quick across the rooftops, but Iron Man flies.

I started wondering about this as I am (slowly) working on some supers home rules.

If Batman escapes an initial contact fight or is prepped for it, the whole equation changes, as I imagine he'd take Tony out before the armor ever gets on. Batman would have to try to skirt the edges of the reason for fighting long enough to find a way to get Tony from getting into the suit methinks.

IMHO a direct confrontation would never work. But the Bats is good at avoiding the direct confrontation, working from the shadows, etc. I think a "who would win" would be entirely situational, and would be entirely dependent on whether the Bats can shape the battlefield to his advantage or not…

Damon.

Hmm very true.

For that matter, Batman could potentially turn Iron Man against himself.

Laws of motion conservation still apply to Stark (well..they should anyway…). Get his suit up to serious speed, run that Batcycle around the corner and Stark flying behind you is still going to take a while to turn (flight surfaces are tiny). Maybe flies into the next building.

Iron Man still weighs a ton. That might be an approach.

Is Iron Man magnetic?

Batman has a long history of losing the first round, but taking what he learns and finding a way to neutralize the enemy. Unless Tony killed Bruce the first time they fought, Batman would take out Iron Man during round two.

The standard rule is "Batman wins with prep" Give Batman enough time and he will work out a strategy to take down even Darkseid.

If it's a "cold" encounter, Tony Stark might win because of Batman's unfamiliarity with Iron Man.

Stark vs Wayne the battle of the bank balances….

Stark vs Wayne in a drinking contest. Tony doesn't even have to break for the bathroom if he's wearing the suit. I have Tony drinking Wayne under the table…

Damon.

Take Tony Stark out of the suit and face him against Bruce Wayne, and Bruce would mop the floor with him… Unless Bruce decides it's better not to reveal his fighting ability and goes down on the first punch, which Bruce Wayne does regularly so it's not much of a point really.

I think Iron Man could potentially be the exception to the rule "Batman wins with prep".

Tony has a similar history of making adjustments to counter a specific threat or opponent (the Hulkbuster and Thorbuster armors for example). In a second fight, he could have a suit of Batbuster armor. He has the same financial resources as Bruce, and he is one of the five smartest people in the world.

I think Batman is left always playing catchup on this one and give the matchup to Iron Man.

I would hope that Batman has a bit more cunning.

Might have to use Batgirl to distract Tony, but sometimes sacrafices must be made.

Who needs Batgirl? Set out a scotch and water, minus the water, and wait. Tony flips the hood for a sip, BAM, batarang to the face. End of fight, Batman wins.

Batman vs. Iron Man

EMP

Batman wins. Iron Man can't even move.

Batman can create his own battlesuit to fight Iron Man, like he did in Frank Miller's 'The Dark Knight Returns' to level the playing field vs. Superman.

But I avoid these silly 'what if?' exercises whenever possible.

the ultimate challenge, one that has in the comics rended the universe in twain, is actually Batman Vs. Cap

these are the two characters (in their seperate universes) who simply cannot lose.

Is this comic being published by DC or Marvel ?

If it's a DC crossover – I reckon Bats will win (and they'll sacrifice Aquaman in the return Crossover against Spidey).

If it a marvel crossover – I reckon Stark wins, Bats goes to jail (but he'll escape).

the ultimate challenge, one that has in the comics rended the universe in twain, is actually Batman Vs. Cap

Except they'd never fight each other. Batman's too good a judge of character, and Cap's too much of a "good Joe" to start a fight without evidence of wrongdoing. The most that would happen is that Cap would issue a challenge and a request that the stranger surrender, and Batman would attempt an immediate escape to avoid the conflict— and he would, of course, succeed. Afterwards, each would investigate the other (with Batman naturally finding out everything about Cap, and Cap finding out nothing more than Batman's successful career). This would result in respect, though maybe not complete agreement on methods. Which is a good thing, else both Universes would of course immediately implode…

Bats'd leave out a bottle of scotch and it would be all over.

Bat vs Cap has been done in the JLA/Avengers Mini-Series. Basically it's a stand off with Batman admitting that Cap might beat him eventually.

The standard rule is "Batman wins with prep"

Yes, this.
Sure Tony dreamed up and built the suit himself.
But a great number of parts Stark needs to build the suit are made by off-shore factories.
Once Iron Man became public, by a complete coincidence I'm sure, a large number of those off-shore factories became subsidiaries of Wayne Tech.

Batman has a plan already in place to take down everyone.
Everyone.

Hmmm I would consider the various elements.

Man compared to the man…both are genius level but in different arenas…hand to hand in gym shorts and tank tops there is no question Bruce wins.

Both are rich…no, both are wealthy, tie.

Asking myself is Batman/Ironman the man using tools or is he the tools…Tony has vast potential without the suit as does Bruce but at the core Bruce is far more than his tools.

So Batman seeing the Ironman would seek to reduce the advantage of the suit…stealing control of the suit, shutting it down, overdriving the power sources, etc.

I would think that neither would look to fight at first, but Batman may tag Ironman with some Bat-device just in case.

I would have to go with Batman. Though Tony/Ironman would have advantages on many aspects, Bruce/Batman would have more.

as much as I would like it to be otherwise, Bats will win

Bruce is that paranoid, he would have an alternative gizmo tucked away

yes they are both brilliant,
both wealthy enough to makw Trump cry,
both have vast experience

but Bts is a PROFESSIONAL paranoid :-)

I think this one boils down to planning versus improvisation.

A lot of the above posts have pointed out that BM is a paranoid planner. It wouldn't even be a question of "if" he had a plan in place to take out IM. If IM existed, he would be taken into consideration.

I don't think we give enough credit to IM's improvisation. Sure he has the suit. But suit, no suit, new suit, damaged suit, IM's modus operandi is to charge in and figure it out as he goes along. There are the X-buster specific suits. But even with those, the coup de grâce is always drawing the Ace with twenty on the board.

Given that, I would go with IM. Not because I believe in the power of improvisation over planning, but because I think making it up as you go along leads to more interesting storylines than "BM won in the end because he had everything planned out all along".

Besides … I am Iron Man
dummm dummm dum dum dum dadadadadada dum dum dum

My money is on Batman.

Come on, he beat Superman.

Adam West will kick Iron-Man's ferrous ….