"Fabulous Bangladeshi camo scheme" Topic

In the rescue operations in Bangladesh there have been some glorious camo schemes on show. My favourite is shown here:

If I need point it out, it's the one on the right.

What environment would such a scheme be used for? Perhaps forced entry into a night club in San Francisco in the late 1960s?

What environment would such a scheme be used for?

It is a disco camo scheme. When the red/orange lights flash the wearer can't be seen at all! :-) The pink Marigolds (UK brand name rubber gloves) are an important part of the overall scheme!

Maybe it's not camo but designed for operations like this so that the wearer can be seen.

Volcanic eruption camo – it's also surprisingly heat resistant….

Maybe it's not camo but designed for operations like this so that the wearer can be seen.

Why would you need a 2 colour garment though? A bright orange helmet and a hi vis jacket would be much better surely!

Yeah, the two colour mix will definitely dampen visibility compared to a solid orange / yellow / hi-vis green. It's definitely an odd combination….

Makes no sense, does it? You WANT rescue workers to be seen. The grey and red can be a rather effective camou pattern in a brick-and-cement setting.

Same thing with naval crew wearing camou – by the time your ship is spotted, it doesn't really matter if you are wearing camou; camou just makes you harder to spot when you are overboard!

A Zombie Apocalypse, obviously.

Hiding in Christmas Poinsettias to attack the western infidels.
Rod Robertson

Don't know why they went for that when they could have opted for this much more tasteful Yemeni camo scheme:

There's an even better Iraqi camo scheme but I can't put my fingers on it at the mo. This Bangladeshi one takes the cake though, I reckon.

The Yemeni one's easier to paint, though. [Types Dom, mulling over his remaining unpainted AK47 units….]

I think some of the flouro-cam from various central African republics are some of the most 'what were they thinking' camo schemes, probably chosen for intimidation value. The Yemeni cammo probably works out in the arid zones, just not really good in built up areas.

As for the Bangladeshi cam, maybe it was made from some over run material intended as the next great fashion statement?

Apparently white face paint, large shoes and red nose are only worn on formal occasions in Yemeni units.

Wow !!! Adds new meaning to the phrase – camo, cover and concealment !

I don't know. In that environment he blends pretty well. look in the background, and you can just spot a guy in between a green camo uniform and a white shirt.. In rubble, in an urban environment, at a distance, that doesn't seem that bad.

Well it is odd, that's for sure. I can see the Yemeni scheme working in the desert.

The camouflage does work, you will not see anything but those uniforms.

Kokigami's right – cammo is not meant for Hollywood closeups. Still a layman would think they'd go with a less vibrant orange, but obviously its not a first glance is right issue.

So what you're saying is that the Bangladeshis are the go-to guys for urban camo as opposed to, say, the British Army, or the Americans? Well, that's quite possible I guess.

I would not want to be in a fluorescent orange scheme unless my unit were defending a pumpkin patch.

I think it works well as an urban camo scheme. One of the mistakes a lot of folks (including us) make is in the thinking that camo is supposed to hide completely the wearer. No, its job is to "cover and conceal" meaning that it can be garish or seemingly non-sensical at one range, but devastatingly effective at other ranges. A good case in point are the naval "dazzle" schemes of WWI and WWII.

Most camo schemes don't work in all environments, or even sometimes in their "home" environments as well as they should. It was one of the reason why the US military adopted the MARPAT and DIGIPAT camo systems to try and broaden the range of use and effectiveness for their uniforms.

I think everyone here is making the mistake that most camouflage uniforms have anything to do with actual camouflage. Most of it has to do with esprit de corps and differentiation rather than with concealment.

You'll notice that the US military has an absurd number of different patterns at the moment. How many of them are actually being used down range on actual operations? Maybe 2 (multicam and MARPAT desert)?

What environment would such a scheme be used for? Perhaps forced entry into a night club in San Francisco in the late 1960s?

That is from the fire service. We see all sorts of idiotic decisions from government organisations, so there isn't necessarily a good reason for it. One stupid guy at the top comes up with an idea and then every ass kisser in the chain of command backs him up.

Look at that photo from a distance away. The guy on the right is much better hidden than the guy on the left….

Easy to take the mickey I guess.

Yes, even easier when a Bangladeshi TMP member has just told us that it's from the fire service and is not meant as camouflage for combat in rubble at all.

The Yemeni one is not unlike one of the WW2 Soviet Amoeba pattern variants actually used I think by Sappers etc.
As to the Bangladeshi one – as said Fire Service sounds right – like all those blue and white police camos popular in E.Europe – as said camo is as much about esprit de corps etc as camouflage.

You'll notice that the US military has an absurd number of different patterns at the moment. How many of them are actually being used down range on actual operations? Maybe 2 (multicam and MARPAT desert)?

Some Army units are still deploying with the ACU patterns. Multicam is better, but both MARPATs are also in use. Afghanistan is green in places. Heck, Helmand Province looks an awful lot like southern Idaho. Big rocks sticking up out of a tree-covered creek bed.

The USN pattern is ragbag, intended to hide paint longer before you have to throw the uniform away (average life expectancy of the older utility uniform was 6 months, anyway)

According to Camopedia it's the

Fire & Civil Defence Directorate

Maybe the Civil Defence aspect also explains the need for a cammo uniform.

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They have invested in the future ,that is obviously the Mars pattern camo.

The Yemeni one's easier to paint, though.

…and it's perfect for a banana republic.

Ron

We see all sorts of idiotic decisions from government organisations

Any large organisation is like that!

According to Camopedia it's the

Fire & Civil Defence Directorate

Maybe the Civil Defence aspect also explains the need for a cammo uniform.

The Civil Defense side of their job relates to crisis management; earthquakes, building collapses, other civil contingencies. They have no combat role or combat training.

At a distance it does work really well, as somebody pointed out though why would you wasnt to conceal rescue workers?

Saying that, 'grey -ornage for urban scenarios seems to be so this season…." ;-)

On the general topic of camouflage, there was a good article in the Washington Post a couple days ago:

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If I had to guess I'd say it was made for hunting in the USA. Lots of hunting camo in the US has bright orange in the pattern.
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Lots of it is likely made in Bangladesh, and apparently some of it ends up used by the local forces.

No, there's not enough Blaze Orange in that to be a US hunting pattern.

And the WaPo article forgot to mention that the US Army's pattern intended to work anywhere doesn't work ANYWHERE.

The Camopedia How cool thanks for the site MiniatureMojo

Lord Ghee