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John Treadaway05 May 2013 8:47 a.m. PST

The new Ground Zero Games 15mm Division Légère made an appearance at Salute this year.

As the vehicles and troops are either out or are to be out within days, here's the Big Detachent Sheet PDF link – and the Big Troop Sheet PDF link – (for those who like to play smaller games) available, with some background, on the Slammers site. link

Troops are, effectively, half sized units commanded by a Sergeant rather than an Lt.

picture

Painted by Jim Clark

John Treadaway
hammers-slammers.com

Angel Barracks05 May 2013 8:48 a.m. PST

Mr T.

What is the smallest practical force you can field in HS and still get the feel of the game with?


Michael.

Personal logo MrHarold Sponsoring Member of TMP05 May 2013 9:00 a.m. PST

These are some awesome looking figures!

Thanks again for another great update.

beer

Thats me05 May 2013 9:07 a.m. PST

Oh yeas this new troopers are Awsome and im waiting for them.I managed to have some clouser look on Salute this year and both fullyarmoured like on pic here and ones in ,,kepis,, are great…Well its obvius they will be since GZG make only fine toys for big boys;)

John Treadaway05 May 2013 9:09 a.m. PST

A troop works well. A troop is half of a detachment. The size of a detachment varies because of thhe quality levels of the units: an Elite Detachment is 8 TUs, Veteran's 10, Trained 15 and Untrained 30. A single detachent is led by an Lt, usually, two are led by a Captain, three by a Major.

With troops, that works out to: an Elite Detachment is 4 TUs, Veteran's 5, Trained 8 and Untrained 15. A single troop is led by a Sergeant.

A TU is a single vehicle or a stand of infantry. Slight variations to this is that a towed weapon (say an anti-tank gun) is a TU including it's towing vehicle.

For most units you can just pick a half sized troop from the detachment sheets provided, but – in the case of the Division and the Slammers – I've made specific troop sheets up, specifically so that the publisher Pireme can make up a boxed set with the rules and a troop of Slammers and a Troop of Division Legere so that people can buy it and just start playing immediately.

Soooo – the really short answer Michael (unlike the one I've just given) is four to five vehicles and stands or infantry usually 4 infantry per base) per side is enough to play a good game of an hour or so to get a handle of how the rules work. A detachment per side (double that) will get a game that lasts an hour and a half to two hours (or less if you are experienced).

I usually play a single or double detachment per side, two player game and they last me a couple of hours plus of a club night. Less than that is quicker but just as much fun – just fewer decisions with leadership.

And remember, this is irrespective of scale: 6mm, 15mm or 28mm all work the same.

John T

John Treadaway05 May 2013 9:14 a.m. PST

@ Thats me

Yes they are nice: here's a shot of some in the Kepis

picture

John T

Thats me05 May 2013 9:30 a.m. PST

Great models.Soon Sooon;)to be mine.Im getting both variants since they can do great as one force (since they are) or i civil war scenario poses detail sculpt just WOW.Thanks for pics;)

Literal Nonsense05 May 2013 9:47 a.m. PST

Are those minis produced by GZG at the moment? Or are they new? (The infantry)

Thats me05 May 2013 10:06 a.m. PST

Literal tey are going to be realised soon by GZG.

AVAMANGO05 May 2013 10:09 a.m. PST

It's about time, I've been waiting ages for something like this, i will be getting a couple of these Hades II tank destroyers they will go very well with the GZG wombat APC's.

TheRatGod05 May 2013 11:19 a.m. PST

i want:)

John Treadaway05 May 2013 11:28 a.m. PST

I'm moderately sure that the infantry and all vehicles are available now and the tank destroyer is imminent (we had master casts to paint for the show game).

John T

TheRatGod05 May 2013 11:41 a.m. PST

do you have a link?

John Treadaway05 May 2013 11:48 a.m. PST

Not that I can find. Drop Jon at GZG an email.

John T

TheRatGod05 May 2013 11:50 a.m. PST

yeah was having trouble finding them on the site, why i asked :)

captainquirk05 May 2013 11:56 a.m. PST

They weren't on general release at Salute.

Part of what Jon was referring to in the "Post Salute Update" where he talks of putting everything upon the store once he has cleared the mail order backlog… shouldn't be too long now.

John Treadaway05 May 2013 12:07 p.m. PST

Ah – I might have been a bit premature…

Sorry about that.. :)

John T

captainquirk05 May 2013 12:12 p.m. PST

Well, it whets the appetite! :-)

Personal logo Legion 4 Supporting Member of TMP06 May 2013 6:58 a.m. PST

Love the Kepis !!!!!!

John Treadaway06 May 2013 7:56 a.m. PST

They are indeed tres bien, zut alors!

They make a nice change!

John T

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