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khurasanminiatures01 May 2013 6:18 p.m. PST

We are very pleased to release our latest pack of 15mm modern combatant figurines, Modern American Police Officers.

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This set of figurines is the first in a series of modern law enforcement, perfect for modern urban combat. These are in street patrol uniforms and using weapons they might have in their police cruisers, responding to a crime (or to a zombie outbreak!).

They are here painted by Dags, to represent officers of the New York City Police Department, but could serve as any U.S. police officers, as the uniform is not all that different.

We already have had a set of British Police Firearms Unit made and are waiting for the production castings, then if the first releases are well received, we will certainly make more.

These are available now, at the link below. Happy gaming!

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War Monkey01 May 2013 6:59 p.m. PST

Nice minis, have to put them on my ever growing list of things to buy

Wargamedownloads01 May 2013 7:08 p.m. PST

Finally some modern American cops.

Also could use some that are just standing/walking around.

jefritrout01 May 2013 7:41 p.m. PST

Jon,

Normally I really like your stuff…

Once again with the hats. The police that I work with do not wear their 8 point hats except for formal occasions with their dress uniforms. Other than state troopers who wear a different type of hat all together, I don't see officers wearing 8 point hats, yet all mini manufacturers seem to love them.

More officers try to wear baseball caps than the hat that these officers have. Unless the city has a special regulation requiring hats (in which case they ALL should have them) officers can't wear these hats unless they are in full dress uniform. I find it amazing that we work so hard to get acurate uniforms for Thirty Years War Germans, Incas and other historic ranges, but nobody does the same with modern police. Yes this is a rant, but this is becoming a pet peeve of mine.

So if you make police standing/walking/eating please, please, please don't have them wearing hats.

khurasanminiatures01 May 2013 8:01 p.m. PST

Well, no reason not to do head swaps at some point, but LAPD wear hats on the streets, that is, when they have a hat on at all!

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Chicago police do on patrol:

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And of course the NYPD, the largest police force in the country, does as well.

War Monkey01 May 2013 8:02 p.m. PST

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Not to start trouble or to burst your bubble but these are cops wearing eight pionted hats

khurasanminiatures01 May 2013 8:06 p.m. PST

To be fair though, those are NYPD.

clkeagle01 May 2013 8:19 p.m. PST

Those are mostly staged photos – the Chicago officer is a supervisor wearing his dress uniform instead of his PDU. In the case of NYPD and Seattle PD (two agencies who still mandate the formal headgear for uniform patrol)… it's hard to push uniform policy changes in such massive organizations. Numerous layers of bureaucracy, meddling from city councilmembers, etc. Even something as simple as a policy letter to mandate the wear of seatbelts (more cops die in traffic accidents than all other causes combined) can take years to push through the big agencies.

Most smaller police departments and sheriffs' offices face less resistance to change, and have long since changed to ballcaps or no headgear. The 5.11 Tactical Field Cap is fairly common throughout the midwest.

Google your local town names plus "police uniform policy" to see some examples. Most keep their policies online for public reference.

-Chris K.

War Monkey01 May 2013 8:21 p.m. PST

Yes your right to be fair, cops from where I live
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McWong7301 May 2013 8:27 p.m. PST

Any chance of an Avon Barksdale or Stringer Bell? ;)

Prince Alberts Revenge01 May 2013 8:57 p.m. PST

I'd say they are very nice models. As a former police officer, and someone who works with them now, I'd like to say that I know a thing or two : My department had multiple uniform variations depending on weather, preference and even shift. The 8-point cap (called a garrison cap on my department) was worn with both our class-A formal uniform as well as more casual. Things like weather and time of year also played a part. Then there was personal taste, I wore a "garrison " cap while my friends wore the ballcap just because I liked to stand out. There is no one-standard….even tho my old department heavily regulated our uniforms, it was common to see variation.

DuckanCover01 May 2013 9:02 p.m. PST

Perhaps, in gaming (and marketing) terms, this tends to make the figures look more like the rest of the world's perception of the iconic "American" policeman?

I don't doubt that photos could be found to support or refute all of our views on the subject, with examples cited simultaneously occurring in the same city…..

As always, one way or the other, headswaps could be an option.

Baseball cap heads please, (Mr Goddard)Peter Pig?

Duck

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Another six figures, somewhere down the line, with patrol rifles (read M4s/MForgeries) would be nice too.

AlsoDuck

khurasanminiatures01 May 2013 9:07 p.m. PST

Those are mostly staged photos

NYC police absolutely wear their hats on patrol. The LAPD photo was taken during the manhunt for Christopher Dorner which, as far as I know, was not a staged event. grin The Chicago officer is part of a street patrol program, and here are some Chicago cops in what I think is also not a staged photo:

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Mako1101 May 2013 9:39 p.m. PST

Hats, what hats?

Those black, stilleto heels are very nice too, as are the legs attached to them.

War Monkey01 May 2013 10:07 p.m. PST

here's how they dress at lease once a year around here

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Not sure of the red markings on their helmets Unbrella Corporation maybe?

khurasanminiatures01 May 2013 10:09 p.m. PST

Riot gear coming too….

I do believe those to be the Umbrella PD.

War Monkey01 May 2013 10:12 p.m. PST

Those are St. Paul cops

Mako1102 May 2013 2:57 a.m. PST

A bit late for running scenarios of today's events, but riot police for next year's May Day "Celebrations", and/or for revisiting those from this year, or on other planets would definitely be useful.

79thPA Supporting Member of TMP02 May 2013 6:23 a.m. PST

Hats/no hats is a very local thing. We always used to wear hats because our chief was retired NYPD. Since he retired from our department they are optional and you are more likely to see a command officer in a hat than a patrol officer. You will NEVER see one of our officers in a ball cap.

Personal logo MrHarold Sponsoring Member of TMP02 May 2013 6:45 a.m. PST

These are great!

As far as the hat/no hat thing these are my thoughts:

1) These look like they are prime for head swaps, especially since the neck is so "Exposed"

2) Hats is indeed very specific to each department.

3) LAPD officers wear their hats "covers" in specific instances: Fancy events, "foot beats (sometimes)", working at the airport, riding those funny segway things, and other times., like during zombie outbreaks.

Great set Jon!

jefritrout02 May 2013 6:48 a.m. PST

I'm here in the DC area and around this city we don't wear them except for dress uniforms. (Some captains like to wear them, but the officers on the street do not.) Ball caps are generally used with BDUs, but not the regular uniform unless there is inclement weather. I know in our department they are detested and only worn with Class A's.

So maybe we can divide your packs into big city police (with hats) and other departments (without hats).

(I make fun of others)02 May 2013 6:53 a.m. PST

I get very angry whenever someone releases Waffen SS models and they are not wearing fezes. grin

boy wundyr x02 May 2013 7:14 a.m. PST

I'm with DuckanCover on this, I'm ok with "movie" policemen (-women) for gaming. I'll have SWAT teams etc. for heavier action.

renlegunvrs02 May 2013 8:37 a.m. PST

I would love too see mounted (ie horseback) police officers too. Especially in riot gear! In Montreal our riot teams get too go out and play almost once a month if not more. I would love too be able too play riot control games in 15mm.

(i would insert a picture as my wife is in the Cavalrie Riot team but im not sure how too add pictures)

Zaheer02 May 2013 9:53 a.m. PST

I quite like them although I have no use for them. If you could get round to it Khurasan…

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(I make fun of others)02 May 2013 10:40 a.m. PST

Yes, I'd like to see "People, Walking" as well. There's a real shortage of that. grin

CPBelt02 May 2013 11:34 a.m. PST

Zaheer, I think in 15mm making plain clothes police would be easy. Just a dab of whatever color the badge is on the belt of a civilian figure would work fine. After all, at 15mm height the badge would have no physical depth anyway.

CPBelt02 May 2013 11:36 a.m. PST

When do we get this fellow in 15mm? grin

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Zaheer02 May 2013 1:25 p.m. PST

I'm sure I could source the figures from other ranges myself, but Khurasan are great at doing not-this-film-or-tv-show packs, and I'd love to have Those specific plain clothesmen!

Uesugi Kenshin Supporting Member of TMP02 May 2013 3:07 p.m. PST

Good selection but the hats are strictly Nor-East coppers ;-)

AR armed figures would be good too as they are standard carry now in most PD cars.

79thPA Supporting Member of TMP02 May 2013 7:08 p.m. PST

@CPBELT: Khurasan has a kid close to that in one of its survivor packs.

TheRatGod16 May 2013 3:20 p.m. PST

got mine today, hope they do well enough to make new ones, the zombie hordes demand it

deflatermouse17 May 2013 3:04 a.m. PST

I don't understand much of the preceding posts as they look exactly like Gotham City PD to me.

28mmMan17 May 2013 6:44 a.m. PST

Incredibly useful miniatures!

republic of tolworth17 May 2013 6:56 a.m. PST

I keep putting off ordering these as John keeps putting out nice bits every week, I keep adding to the list.

Khurasan, any news on the slimies?

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