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Tango0105 Apr 2013 12:41 p.m. PST

"The US Army did not have a doctrine for using tanks in jungles when it entered the war. If someone had told the masters of doctrine at Fort Knox that somebody was going to, they probably would have just laughed. The 192d and 194th Tank battalions sometimes fought in jungle conditions during the futile defense of the Philippines after the Japanese invasion in December 1941, but Luzon's looked more like Europe's than did many islands in the Southwest Pacific. Luzon, for example, had roads. Only the US Marine Corps employed tanks on Guadalcanal, so the army learned nothing from the battle that would help it use tanks on the next jungle-clad island on which the Americans would have to fight the Japanese: Bougainville in the Solomons…"
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Do you wargame with tanks in the jungle?

Hope you enjoy!.

Amicalement
Armand

emckinney05 Apr 2013 1:48 p.m. PST

Chieftan's Hatch offers all sorts of good things!

Tango0106 Apr 2013 10:18 a.m. PST

Yes, they do my friend.

Amicalement
Armand

DogWater06 Apr 2013 1:30 p.m. PST

Apparently, the British had some Stuart tanks in Singapore just before the fall of that city, 1941.

Personal logo Legion 4 Supporting Member of TMP07 Apr 2013 7:33 a.m. PST

Well when wargaming, the AFVs stay on a trail, path or road and if they attempt to go into thick/heavy foliage they take a Dangerous Terrain Test. And must do so at the beginning of every turn as long as they are in thick/heavy foliage. The other option is just don't let them move into such terrain …

Jemima Fawr11 Apr 2013 6:35 a.m. PST

No Stuarts at Singapore, though there was a squadron of Mk IV & Mk VI Light Tanks, as well as a squadron of Lanchester armoured cars. Another squadron of Mk VI Lights was dispatched to Singapore, but ended up being diverted to Java, where it served in ABDA Command.

The 7th Armoured Brigade, which did have Stuarts (two regiments – 7th Hussars and 2 RTR) was also on its way to Singapore but was instead diverted to Rangoon, where it performed sterling service during the Retreat from Burma.

The Americans also operated tanks in the jungles of Burma, as part of the US-Chinese Provisional Tank Group; the 1st Battalion of which first saw action in the first weeks of 1944. The 1st Company of the 1st Provisional Tank Battalion was entirely American and Americans also served as advisors and leaders in other companies and battalions. They were equipped entirely with M3A3 Stuarts, though each companylater acquired a large platoon of 5-6 M4A4 Shermans.

Tango0111 Apr 2013 11:22 a.m. PST

Interesting data my friend.
Thanks for share.

Amicalement
Armand

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