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CAG 1908 Mar 2013 1:18 p.m. PST

Can anyone point in some references for how long it took to cycle elements of a Carrier air wing (US and Japanese) into the air for example Refuelling, Rearming, Launch parameters and formations

taskforce5808 Mar 2013 1:23 p.m. PST

Shattered Sword: The Untold Story of the Battle of Midway goes into quite a bit of detail on flight ops on IJN carriers.

highlandcatfrog08 Mar 2013 1:28 p.m. PST

The book Shattered Sword goes into great detail about that at Midway.

IIRC once everything was spotted on the deck the Japanese got them airborne a little bit faster, but for the whole "deck cycle" (arming, fueling, spotting, and launching) the U.S. was faster. Can't remember how long it took though.

As the war progressed the U.S. got even faster.

Will try to see if I can dig up some info on time (number of minutes) for you later today.

highlandcatfrog08 Mar 2013 1:29 p.m. PST

taskforce58 beat me to it! Curse my slow typing!

jgibbons08 Mar 2013 6:10 p.m. PST

Shattered Sword is a good book overall as well…

I recommend it highly…

Shagnasty Supporting Member of TMP09 Mar 2013 9:38 a.m. PST

Currently rereading "SS" and recommend unreservedly for Japanese carrier ops. Great history! For the US the authors recommend Lundstrom's "First Team" books. I have not been able to access them yet so have no personal knowledge

darthfozzywig09 Mar 2013 8:02 p.m. PST

I hear the book Shattered Sword is…oh forget it.

John D Salt12 Mar 2013 2:33 p.m. PST

As a supplementary question, does anyone have this sort of thing for RN, specifically BPF, carier deck ops? I have been unable to find anything really useful even from primary sources in the ADM series at the national archive.

All the best,

John.

ScottWashburn Sponsoring Member of TMP12 Mar 2013 6:29 p.m. PST

I would also recommend:
"Midway Inquest: Why the Japanese Lost the Battle of Midway"
by Dallas W. Isom.

Isom goes into extreme detail on the reloading process on the Japanese carriers and the reasons it took them so long to re-arm. For example, each carrier only had six of the wheeled dollies used to carry torpedoes. And that the gizmo on the Kate bombers that held the torpedoes was not the right size to also hold a bomb, so it had to be swapped out along with the ordnance. He also includes other fascinating facts like the Japanese Zero depended almost completely on its two 20mm cannons, but they only held 40 rounds per gun. The 7.7mm machine guns were almost useless. This is why the high-level Zeros had to come down to help stop the last American torpedo attacks (the low level squadron had used up all its 20mm ammo and couldn't hurt the Devastator torpedo planes)--thus leaving the carriers undefended when the American dive bombers arrived.

Some of the book is a trifle long-winded and it focuses solely on the two or three hours between the first strike on Midway and the attack of the American dive bombers, but if you are looking for details, this book has them!

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