imdone | 05 Mar 2013 1:59 p.m. PST |
Hello All, Am I correct to assume this is the most used scale? And, if so, who all makes ships in this scale? Finally, as I know one company's version of a scale may not always match another's, do all of these match? Thank you |
John Leahy | 05 Mar 2013 2:37 p.m. PST |
No, this is more of a modelling scale, IIRC. Fleet gaming is 1/7000. Check over at Starship combat News for more info. star-ranger.com/forum Hth, John |
Lion in the Stars | 05 Mar 2013 3:30 p.m. PST |
Also, Starfleet ships are big. IIRC, the plastic ships are in 1/3900ish, for 1"=100m. |
Ghostrunner | 05 Mar 2013 3:48 p.m. PST |
Keep in mind, the Star Fleet 2400 or Star Fleet 2500 lines are not 1/2400 or 1/2500 scale. Starline 2200/2300/2400 are the 'original' miniatures line by ADB at 1/3788. (Originally set by making the Enterprise about 3" long.) Most of the ADB ships and the old FASA ships are about this scale. Starline 2500 are the new Mongoose line, and they are 1/3125 scale. |
Sargonarhes | 05 Mar 2013 4:56 p.m. PST |
Been to the ADB website lately? It would seem the new Mongoose line will be the only line for Starfleet Battles. Better stock up on the old miniatures while you can. |
Virtualscratchbuilder | 05 Mar 2013 5:05 p.m. PST |
There are no 1/2400 trek minis. However, 1/2500 is a popular modelling scale which puts a TOS 1701 around 4.5".
As said above, 1/7000 is a popular gaming scale, which puts a Reman Scimitar at around 6/5".
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Chef Lackey Rich | 05 Mar 2013 5:37 p.m. PST |
Been to the ADB website lately? It would seem the new Mongoose line will be the only line for Starfleet Battles. Better stock up on the old miniatures while you can. I have been, but I didn't see anything to that effect, and it appears from the forum that Stevie is still planning a few new 2400 ships this year. Do you have a link to whatever announcement was made regarding the line being axed? I was under the impression they were retaining their own range because the bigger Mongoose sculpts are about as useful as nipples on a snake when it comes to playing on a hex grid – and, probably, because no one in their right mind would completely trust Mongoose no matter how tight the licensing contract is. |
John Leahy | 05 Mar 2013 7:25 p.m. PST |
Amen to that. The older line has been around for many years. Considering how many players own ships in that scale I'd assume they'd sell the range rather than eliminate doing it under some licensing deal. Thanks, John |
infojunky | 06 Mar 2013 12:16 a.m. PST |
I have considered doing trek-like space combat in 1/2500 scale due to the number of models available. |
billclo | 06 Mar 2013 4:40 a.m. PST |
Steve Cole has said that the Starline 2400 line will NOT be discontinued, and is still selling more minis than the new Starline 2500 range. He also said that they'll keep selling the 2400s as long as there is player demand (which there certainly is). So they aren't going anywhere
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John Leahy | 06 Mar 2013 8:16 a.m. PST |
No shocker that folks aren't jumping all over the ACTA range. |
billclo | 06 Mar 2013 9:04 a.m. PST |
Well ACTA:SF isn't as well established as the older Starline 2400 minis, and the larger minis don't play nicely with the smaller hex grid maps that some SFU players use. Being as I had no minis at all when I got into ACTA:SF, there were no issues with compatibility with the SL2400, nor do I use hex maps. I also intensely dislike the lack of detailing on the SL2400s. I think there's room for both product lines to co-exist. :) |
UrbanWarrior | 06 Oct 2013 6:55 a.m. PST |
That Scimitar in the picture above, is it available somewhere? Also interested in the Cardassion Hutet. |
Mad Mecha Guy | 06 Oct 2013 12:30 p.m. PST |
I got the 2500 Klingon box set and found them to be badly designed, the separate warp engines have almost no gluing area, along with a mould lines right across the engine block fin which are a right pain to try to clean up and why they designed/did the necks to be so thin and a weak point right next to bridge which bends easily!? pity you can not the old fasa ones better designs and detailing on most cases. regards |
billclo | 06 Oct 2013 2:49 p.m. PST |
So has someone considered trying to buy the molds from FASA and get permission to make miniatures? I hear all the time how awesome they were. I had some of their Klingon ships, and while they had beautiful detailing, they had their issues as well. |
billclo | 06 Oct 2013 5:07 p.m. PST |
Mecha Guy: One way I was able to do the Klingon wings is this: File the joints so they are pretty tight. Use some super glue gel to get an initial bond, and then when it is dry, carefully run a bead of epoxy on the underside of the joint. My understanding is that the joints were designed for resin, and they just transferred over to metal without re-design. Some of the Klingons (D5/D5W seem to have fewer issues with engine fit), whereas I frequently had problems with the D6/D7/C7 ships. The neck area at the rear of the bridge pod is indeed a weak spot; I don't know why in the heck they did it like that. Makes no sense to me. |
Sargonarhes | 07 Oct 2013 2:48 a.m. PST |
I've been looking for the scale sizes myself as someone on Shapeways has the ships in 3 different scales. 1:3788, 1:5000 and 1:7000. And I was trying figure out which one would best scale with my FASA ships. |