"6mm Napoleonic paper units" Topic

I`ve returned to this little project of mine.

I thought this kind of thing would be ideal for newbies to the period; enabling them to try out rules and things before committing to buy figures in metal or even plastic.
Check out some pictures and something of the range of infantry that I`ve already made at:

link

(some more have been added since this post on my forum!)

Let me now what you think about these.

Mike

Hi Mike.
clicked on your link, but just got a post saying you were making the paper figures and here is a list, but no list and no pictures.

The idea sounds great. make a small selection of all types (inf, cav & art) for 2 or more nations, would be a great way to start and i love 6mm

Did you scroll all the way down the page there Mick?

lagger50, Judging from his gallery, his 6mm infantry are 4 across, so I'd guess Mike is going to make his 6mm paper figs compatable with Adler and Baccus rather than H&R and Irregular. Am I close, Mike?

In any case, anyone promoting 6mm historicals besides WWII and Sci-Fi gets my support! There is too little about showing off this great scale.

Tom

Mike. There is nothing visible on that page after what Mick quoted.

Tom

OK Tom… I think it`s back to the website to load pictures properly I guess… :P

In the meantime, here`s my list updated:

French Line Fusilier Companies 1808-15 (4 companies)
French Line Grenadiers
French Line Voltigeurs
French Legere
French Imperial Guard Grenadiers
French Imperial Guard Chasseurs

Prussian 1812-15 Musketeer Battalions
Prussian 1812-15 Fusilier Battalions
Prussian 1813-15 Landwehr

Portuguese Line Grenadiers
Portuguese Line Centre Companies
Portuguese Line Light Companies

Austrian Musketeers (blue & red facing colours)
Austrian Musketeers (yellow & green facing colours)
Austrian Hungarian Musketeers (yellow, light blue, dark blue & red facings)
Austrian Hungarian Grenadiers
Austrian German Grenadiers
Austrian Landwehr
Austrian Lower Austrian Landwehr
Austrian Styrian Landwehr
Austrian Salzburg Landwehr

British Regiments (blue facing colours)
British Regiments (green facing colours)
British Regiments (yellow facing colours)
British Highlanders Regiments (yellow, blue & green facing colours)

Russian Musketeers
Russian Jaegers
Russian Line Grenadiers
Russian Guard Grenadiers

Italian Line Fusiliers
Italian Line Grenadiers & Voltigeurs

King Joseph's Infantry

More will follow…

I have made French and British cavalry too
The cavalry come in three pieces – although it would be idea to limit them to two, I`m not sure that even the sketchiest regard for horse anatomy will let me
get away with it!

For the other "arms" I have made French artillery (limbers included) and Voltigeurs skirmishing…

Mike

6 mm paper figures?

Do you hang around weddings gathering confetti when you need renforcements?

These units are in the form of paper blocks…

Hi Mike.
Thanks for the list and the pictures above are great.

how can i get hold of them ? and what is the width per base ?

Thanks, Mike. Those look very good! The block appearance adds to the feel for the period and scale. I am wow'd by the variety of troop types you have done so far!

So like Mick asks, how can we get some?

Tom

Thanks Mick & Tom,
I`m making them 20mm wide to comply with the basing for my rules, but they can be easily made to any length.
The ones in the photos above are earlier blocks at 25mm.
I have also made a 1:1 ratio French battalion, which needed a slightly thicker card for the base.

Stay tuned at the grandmanoeuvre forum re. availability; I`ll let you know when I can make a starter pack available.
Ideally, I was thinking of a very small fee for a download for each army from which you would be be able to print out make up any force or historical army that you wish …and this would be for only a few quid perhaps?

Mike.

Sounds good! Yes, download pdf's seems the way to go, for a small fee. Glad you chose 20mm (3/4 inch)! I have mounted my H&R and Irregulars on 3/4 by 1/2 inch bases, two ranks per base; 4 bases to a battalion. With what I am doing, figure count does not matter and 4 bases allows for formations, so I think I am tracking with you here. Please drop me a line when you are ready to open the virtual doors.

Thanks for the time it took to post what you have accomplished so far. That had to have taken a bit of time! "I" appreciate it!

Tom

Just registered on the site. I downloaded your "Game Scales" 4 pager and will study it closely. I was surprised to see you mention Dr. Passamenti's figures! I molded the masters for him before I came over to Germany, 3 years ago! Glad Bob pressed on with them.

Tom

Very nice and a very good idea too. Much success!

Hi Mike.
Thanks for the reply 20mm will be great as that matches baccus stripes. will get a copy of your rules when i get paid.

Your support is appreciated Mick!

Hi Mike.
Just read your little 4 page PDF and very interesting reading. I like the way you have gone for a deeper base size for 3 rank infantry, rather than as others do and have a wider base for 2 rank.
I base my 6mm on 20x20 bases (all types), would that affect the play of your rules.

Are your cavalry still multi-part (i.e. gluing on the horse's head block and the rider block)?

Mick,
At the moment, I can only think that columns would be rather deep, but there is always a scale distortion of depth anyhow.
And that infantry squares would take up more room… given bigger bases, squares would then be able to support one another more easily against cavalry attacking them.
So, the answer yes, but not by much. You could probably "fudge it" just a little bit!

Dale,
Yes they are, but I will try and see what a two-piece model looks like later.

Mike.

I'd be more impressed by confetti.

just kidding, they look good, better than the old Napoleons battles top down 'pieces' for starter players.

Dale,

I have been working on a 2-part cavalry block – the construction seems to work… I made some French Hussars and some Lancers.

These are just roughs…

…the bulging at the bottom of the horse block and the white lines should disappear as I`ve added two more flaps under the horse parts.
The end elevation of the Lancers should be better than this – I made a mistake cutting the piece – I need to make clear which lines should be cut and which ones should be folded!

I`ll be starting over again with the cavalry then…

Mike.

I think they look good! Keep up the good work Mike.

I would like to see them blown up larger so I could see the artwork. Nice concept…

I now have the time necessary and so i`m planning to make British and French units available at the end of this month from my Grand Manoeuvre website.
I have only a few more files to create in order to complete both armies now.
I haven`t worked out what the cost of each download should be or exactly how these armies will be packaged yet – e.g. because not all games use them, do I make skirmishers available separately for instance?

Any ideas on this would be welcomed – I will list the unit types in British and French armies later today…

Regards,

Mike.

Here`s the list of British & French units that I have made already:

French Line Fusilier Companies post-1808
French Line Grenadiers
French Line Voltigeurs
French Legere
French Imperial Guard Grenadiers
French Imperial Guard Chasseurs
French 1st-6th Dragoons
French 1st Hussars
French 2nd Hussars
French 4th Hussars
French 20th Dragoons
French Carabiniers
French Chasseurs a Cheval of the Guard
French Chasseurs Red Facings
French Chasseurs Yellow Facings
French Cuirassiers
French Horse Grenadiers
French Line Lancers
French Line Voltigeurs Skirmishing
French Legere Skirmishing
French Gun Teams
French Heavy Artillery-Early
French Medium Artillery-Early
French Light Artillery-Early (Howitzers)
French Heavy Artillery
French Medium Artillery
French Light Artillery (Howitzers)
French Horse Artillery

British Regiments (blue facing colours)
British Regiments (green facing colours)
British Regiments (yellow facing colours)
British Highlanders Regiments (yellow, blue & green facing colours)
British 3rd KGL Hussars
British 10th & 15th Hussars
British Heavy Dragoons
British Heavy Dragoons Post-1812
British Light Dragoons pre-1812_Red Facings
British Light Dragoons pre-1812_Yellow Facings
British 60th/95th Rifles Skirmishing
British Light Company Skirmishing
British Fusiliers

So, those remaining that I have to make are:
French Middle Guard (the ones with plumes)
French Imperial Guard Artillery
British Fusiliers Skirmishing
British Light Infantry Skirmishing
British Artillery
Early French Infantry ?

Done today:
French "Middle" Guard (Tirailleur Grenadiers and Chasseurs)
British Foot Artillery (6 & 9 pdrs)
British Light Infantry Skirmishing

Mike:
I would like to see early, revolution era units. You know, the stuff no one else will make. French 'Blancs' and 'blues'. The Austrians in the helmets no one will cast. 1800 Russian army. Dare i say it, the army of Piedmont. Units like that.

As a side note, at cold wars this year was a gentleman that put on a ACW game with matchstick armies. They looked really good. My point is I feel there is a place for 'alternate' army types.

Dalewill

Dale,

I have started with some early French artillery and so later I think that I will be doing an early French pack.
And as well as "blues" and "whites", I`ll also be able to make variants for other nation`s troops in floppy hats!

I think that I have only a few more units to make now for basic French armies in shakos and for the British for about 1807 onwards.

I will supply Imperial Guard separately too and perhaps all I`ll need to complete that set would be Guard Lancers and Gardes d`Honor.

Regards,

Mike.

Well… I`ve worked out the package for the British and French Army Packs:

In the French Army Pack there will be 22 files:

Cuirassiers
Carabiniers
Chasseurs Red Facings
Chasseurs Yellow Facings
1st Hussars
2nd Hussars
4th Hussars
1st-6th Dragoons
20th Dragoons
Line Lancers

Legere Infantry
Line Fusilier Companies
Line Grenadiers
Line Voltigeurs

French Legere Skirmishers
French Line Skirmishers

Light Artillery (3-4 pdrs/Howitzers)
Medium Artillery (6-8 pdrs)
Heavy Artillery (12 pdrs)
Horse Artillery
Six-Horse Gun Teams with Riders
Four-Horse Gun Teams with Riders

In the British Army Pack there will be 23 files:

Heavy Dragoons Pre-1812
Heavy Dragoons Post-1812
Light Dragoons pre-1812_Red Facings
Light Dragoons pre-1812_Yellow Facings
3rd KGL Hussars
10th & 15th Hussars

Regiments with Green Facings
Regiments with Blue Facings
Regiments with Yellow Facings
Highlander Regiments
Fusiliers

Light Infantry Skirmishing
Light Company Skirmishing
Highlanders Skirmishing
Fusiliers Skirmishing
95th Rifles
60th Regiment

Medium Foot Artillery (6 pdrs)
Heavy Foot Artillery (9 pdrs)
Horse Artillery (6 pdrs)
Horse Artillery (9 pdrs)
Six-Horse Gun Teams with Riders
Four-Horse Gun Teams with Riders

In the next few days I will be making and posting some photos of the units.

Some Highlanders?

So here`s some highlanders with yellow facings and with flags attached (which will also be supplied in the British Army Packs).

On the wings are a Grenadier and a Light Company block.

I`ve made 5 blocks for this unit (representing divisions of a battalion), but of course, gamers are free to use as many as they like to represent companies and sub-units in their games.

A based French battalion (with 6 company blocks) in column of attack…

A based regiment of French Hussars in echelon…

Paper Strength Units Are Here !

6mm Napoleonic French and British Army packs are available now from:

grandmanoeuvre.co.uk/shop

Designed with the Napoleonic beginner in mind; "Paper Strength Units" will provide players with an opportunity to game on a large scale or with an "en masse" effect but at a very low cost – you may print and make as many units as you wish.

For example, the French Army pack consists of twenty-two pdf files of French "Line" army units and includes; light and line infantry, skirmishers, cavalry and artillery with horse and limbers and flags.

All you will need to make them is paper, small sharp scissors, PVA glue, a small brush and printer ink.
Once made and the glue is dried, the army unit blocks are surprisingly strong and can be very durable – I still have some in my garage that I made in April 2006!

The bottom line: £5.00 GBP for an army pack of 20-25 files and smaller packs and armies will cost proportionately less!

The contents of the army packs are:

French Napoleonic Army:

French Legere
French Legere Skirmishing
French Line Fusiliers
French Line Grenadiers
French Line Voltigeurs
French Line Voltigeurs Skirmishing

French Light Foot Artillery (Howitzers)
French Medium Foot Artillery
French Heavy Foot Artillery

French Line Lancers
French 1st Hussars
French 2nd Hussars
French 4th Hussars
French 1st-6th Dragoons
French 20th Dragoons
French Chasseurs a Cheval with Red Facings
French Chasseurs a Cheval with Yellow Facings
French Cuirassiers
French Carabiniers

French Horse Artillery
French Four-Horse Gun Teams
French Six-Horse Gun Teams

Infantry Flags for French units

British Napoleonic Army:

British Highlanders
British Highlanders Skirmishing
British Fusiliers
British Fusiliers Light Company Skirmishing
British Regiments with Green Facings
British Regiments with Blue Facings
British Regiments with Yellow Facing
British Light Company Skirmishing
British Light Infantry
British Light Infantry Skirmishing
British 60th Regiment Skirmishing
British 95th Rifles Skirmishing

British 3rd KGL Hussars
British 10th & 15th Hussars
British Light Dragoons Pre-1812 with Red Facings
British Light Dragoons Pre-1812 with Yellow Facings.
British Heavy Dragoons Pre-1812
British Heavy Dragoons Post-1812

British Horse Artillery with 6 pdrs
British Horse Artillery with 9 pdrs

British Medium Artillery with 6 pdrs
British Heavy Artillery with 9 pdrs
British Artillery Four-Horse Gun Teams
British Artillery Six-Horse Gun Teams

Infantry Flags for British units

The Austrians have arrived!

The new Austrian Army pack has twenty-six pdf files and it comprises of; German and Hungarian line musketeers and grenadiers, Jagers, Grenzers and Musketeers skirmishing (all with formed supports), medium and heavy foot artillery with cavalry batteries, and numerous cavalry types; Cuirassiers, Dragoons, Chevauleger, Hussars and Uhlans.

This basic Austrian army pack costs £5.00 GBP

A smaller Hungarian Insurrection & Austrian Landwehr pack will follow.

French and British Army packs are also available from:

grandmanoeuvre.co.uk/shop

The Austrian Army Pack contains the following units:

German Grenadiers
Musketeers Yellow & Green Facings
Musketeers Red & Blue Facings
Hungarian Grenadiers
Hungarian Musketeers

Grenzers Skirmishing
Jagers Skirmishing
Third Rank Musketeers Skirmishing

1st & 3rd Cuirassiers
2nd & 6th Cuirassiers
2nd Dragoons
3rd & 4th Dragoons
6th Dragoons
1st, 2nd, 3rd & 6th Chevauleger
5th Chevauleger
4th Hussars
5th Hussars
10th Hussars
1st Uhlans
2nd Uhlans
3rd Uhlans
Six-Horse Gun Teams Cavalry Artillery

Medium Artillery
Heavy Artillery
Four-Horse Gun Teams
Six-Horse Gun Teams

Wow, I am actually working on something similar myself only in 28mm scale. Cool!

28mm… and are these models rusty?

There are lots of interesting things out there being made in paper!

When a friend saw my paper units he said he`d already made some, but I think he`d made some 10mm infantry which came out last year.

Constructing an infantry block is not difficult, but I found coming up with design compromises for cavalry and riders was less straight forward.

At this scale, it`s interesting looking at the 6mm unit blocks at a distance, because you get almost the same visual impression as historical commanders did… and you have to get closer to recognize whose troops they are and what types, or class they might be.

A photo of Austrian Musketeers and Hungarian Grenadiers…

Apology:
Grand Manoeuvre site will be temporarily Offline
The website`s provider we will be migrating hardware to a larger data centre and so the GM site may be offline between 10 PM UK time on 09-10-2013 and 6 AM UK time on 10-10-2013.
Regards,
Mike.

New out on this particular front; Austrian Landwehr infantry and Hungarian Insurrection troops

at:

link

12 files – £3.00 GBP

The website is back up again after being hacked (my fault for having an simple password I think).

Austrian Landwehr infantry and Hungarian Insurrection troops…

The photos show Styrian Landwehr in Column and Austrian Landwehr in Line Formation.

I have just published a Spanish army.

The Spanish army pack has 26 pdf files and it comprises of both pre- and post-1812 pattern infantry uniforms; Line Musketeers and Grenadiers with Cazadores and Musketeers skirmishing with formed reserves. The cavalry includes four regiments of heavy cavalry, four regiments of Dragoons, 2 Hussars and 2 Cazadores (Chasseurs), with heavy and medium foot artillery batteries and the options of 4- or 6-horse gun teams.

The photo shows 2 companies of Grenadiers and Musketeers and an Artlliery battery with three supporting squadrons of Heavy Cavalry and Dragoons on their left flank.

I`m back at work on the paper armies again after a break and some technical difficulties.

I had to install an XP version of MS Paint on my new PC – apparently the one that comes with windows7 does not print out at actual size and so prevented me from making files as I did before!

Poles are the next army… and I`m working on "roads and tracks" with "rivers and streams" to add later.

Ooops! looks like I spoke too soon here…

I`ve had problems with printing files; even using the XP paint (3.1) they just won`t come out actual size.

I will try the paint version on my old PC, but I still have to wait delivery of some ink cartridges to test this… it`s all rather frustrating!

Anyone had similar problems – solutions ?

Not sure why this is – however there are a number of excellent open source alternatives for Windows MS Paint.

Pinta
pinta-project.com

Paint.Net
getpaint.net

Hi Gustav,
I could investigate these, but do you know if I will be able to convert my bmp files for these programs ?
Regards,
Mike.

Just to update you here on this little technical problem….

I will be getting a new hard drive for my old PC, installing Windows XP on it, and then with that version of MS Paint I will be able to resume work on the paper armies.
I will need to make the .pdf conversions on the same machine and this hopefully will print/convert to actual file sizes.

The new hard drive in old PC solution didn`t work… but the good news is that I`ve started working again on the paper armies.
It would seem that the problem in printing and saving was due to the format of printer set-up in windows7 MS Paint and so when printing in landscape format the images were resized to fit the paper.
I think I corrected this and am able to work with the Windows7 version of Paint !

So, today I worked on Duchy of Warsaw line Infantry and some Polish infantry flags…. hopefully now I can crack on with the little chaps !

Any plans to do British allies for Waterloo, Brunswick, Nassau etc.?