Rod MacArthur | 12 Feb 2013 8:20 a.m. PST |
I am planning to paint up an Austrian army next year, just getting all the figures together at present. I was thinking about how to differentiate between the white uniforms and white cross belts. My figures are 1:72 plastics and I only paint to a standard which looks OK from a few feet away. Possibilities are: a. Everything white, but outline the cross belts with a grey shading. b. Uniforms very pale grey (off-white) on grounds that some sources say this was more accurate, then cross belts in white. I would appreciate advice as to what will give the best result. Rod |
Pictors Studio | 12 Feb 2013 8:24 a.m. PST |
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Green Tiger | 12 Feb 2013 8:29 a.m. PST |
A Have tried it a number of ways and the off white look just looks grubby and unfinished – just do a couple and see what you prefer
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GROSSMAN | 12 Feb 2013 8:32 a.m. PST |
White spray paint then dip them in army dip. |
SJDonovan | 12 Feb 2013 8:55 a.m. PST |
For my Austrians I undercoat black then dry-brush white. I then touch up the cross belts with white (dry-brushing will have already done most of the work) I then fill in the uniforms in Vallejo Ivory (which is a pale cream colour). It works pretty well and it is also quick to do. The uniforms still look white but the cross belts stand out nicely. |
wrgmr1 | 12 Feb 2013 8:59 a.m. PST |
I did a light grey first coat, then highlight with white. White crossbelts on 25mm Sash and Sabre Figures.
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JCBJCB | 12 Feb 2013 9:14 a.m. PST |
I've done this 800 ways, but am now settling on white primer, followed by a heavy wash (all over the uniform) of Delta Ceramcoat off-white (like a very, very white cream). I then wash the uniform with Vallejo pale wash, which is a slightly grey wash. Then highlight with white. |
Neojacobin | 12 Feb 2013 10:49 a.m. PST |
My method works well too. I spray a white undercoat on the figures and when dry, heavily brush on a mixture of black ink thinned with equal parts water and Future floor finish. (The "Dip") This lines all the detail you want lined and helps these old eyes paint a stark white figure. I dry brush off-white on the uniform, ivory for the belts, and whatever other detail needs doing. You can do a LOT of whitecoats in a short time with this method, and it looks OK, at least to me. |
Ken Portner | 12 Feb 2013 12:11 p.m. PST |
Does the scale matter to the technique chosen? I.e. do some work better/worse with 15mm as opposed to 28mm? |
Larry R | 12 Feb 2013 12:43 p.m. PST |
I do waht Neojacobin does with my 15mm Austrians and really like how it turns out, quick too |
abelp01 | 12 Feb 2013 4:26 p.m. PST |
Get this: link Gray-3, wash or dip and highlight with Gray-1, Voila! |
Supercilius Maximus | 13 Feb 2013 7:38 a.m. PST |
Option B, but remember that off-white doesn't have to mean grey. Wool often re-attained a cream colour (it's natural state in fact) if it wasn't kept very clean – didn't the Austrians pipeclayed their uniforms? – and if you look at the uniforms of re-enactors you can easily see there is a very clear difference between the "cream" of the uniform and the cleaner white of the belts. Another method I've seen which worked quite well was to use a tone called "Aluminium" – I think it was a Vallejo paint – for the clothing. This gave almost a textural contrast between the very matt look of the uniform and the slight sheen of the belts. |
Timmo uk | 13 Feb 2013 8:45 a.m. PST |
As SM writes, you can achieve this look using Vallejo Stone Grey and Off White for the uniform whilst painting in the belts using normal white. It's a subtle but worthwhile contrast. This is a very easy way to paint whites. Stone grey is a very warm yellowish grey. Undercoating in any grey that tends towards the cool spectrum ie. blueish grey will not look natural for wool uniforms. |
Kellerman | 13 Feb 2013 9:18 a.m. PST |
Foundry's Austrian white for the uniform; white for the belts |
Rod MacArthur | 13 Feb 2013 10:13 a.m. PST |
Thanks for all the suggestions. It seems the best is a very pale grey (so pale as to be off-white) with a true white for cross belts. I have promised myself to finish my Peninsular war set-up this year and plan to start the Austrians next year. Rod |
Battlescale | 13 Feb 2013 12:14 p.m. PST |
I undercoat my 1/72nd plastics with Humbrol Grey enamel. I then lightly dry brush with a slightly diluted white acrylic (usually 2 coats to build the colour up slightly) I then go over the cross-belts with straight white acrylic.
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heavyhorse | 16 Feb 2013 1:15 p.m. PST |
I use a dark grey primer and dry brush with white..accent the belts with blacklines and your ready to do the facings |
Sho Boki | 03 Mar 2013 10:54 a.m. PST |
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