"War of the Roses game" Topic

Incredible good scenic and quite interesting game here from Mr. Silver Whistle.

Full battle in main page
link

Hope you enjoy!.

Amicalement
Armand

Makes everything i have look like its been found in a skip.
:(

Stunning work.

What's Denethor doing at the top of the stairs?

Man! What a beauty!

Awesome scenery and figures--including Denethor. :)

Thanks for posting.

Ted

Very nice! Beautiful looking figures and table.

Doc

Magnificent! Would love a run down on sources for those buildings. Recognize the two new thatched buildings.

mancheterreg – just think how long this must have taken him ! You probably painted a couple of armies and fought a dozen battles in that time.
It IS fantastic but I feel it blurs the line between wargaming and modelling.

Green Tiger, in his blog he says he used Army Painter for his minis, so probably not as long as we would have thought.
An awesome looking table and the minis look excellent; I may have to reconsider Army Painter, as the results look fine to me.
Another blog suitably bookmarked too!

…"blurs the line between gaming and modeling." ???

Is not the very nature or miniature war gaming both? While there are war game enthusiasts that only want the bare needed to put the figures on the table there are others that seek to create a moving diorama. Most of us probably fall along various lines of the middle of that spectrum. I do know war gamers that only purchase figures already painted as they just do not have the time/knack/skill/interest to paint their own which is fine. I think I tend to fall on the upper scale of the middle as I enjoy the painting of the models as much as I do the game itself.

It is an interesting contrast.

Another question is where did he get all the great banners?

So happy you had enjoy the battle and the link boys!

Amicalement
Armand

Is not the very nature of miniature war gaming both?
No, not really. Modelling is a seperate hobby, whilst you may need to do some modelling to provide things like tanks and buildings it is in my opinion an unfortunate distraction. If you want to spend all your time shading highlighting and individually animating figures and creating vignettes and making beautiful terrain that is commendable but it is modelling. They have their own magazines and everything.

No, not really. Modelling is a seperate hobby, whilst you may need to do some modelling to provide things like tanks and buildings it is in my opinion an unfortunate distraction. If you want to spend all your time shading highlighting and individually animating figures and creating vignettes and making beautiful terrain that is commendable but it is modelling. They have their own magazines and everything.

Well that is your opinion, but it's a minority opinion. Every miniatures gamer I play with, even the ones who aren't good at painting, takes pride in making the best-looking table with the nicest terrain they can. It's the visual appeal that brings people to miniatures games. If the modelling part of the hobby wasn't important, we would all be playing hex-and-counter games, or playing on ping pong tables with chalk-outline hills, using armies spray-painted red and green. And we would be doing it at conventions attended by a half-dozen people.

The line between wargaming and modelling is already blurry, intentionally so. Modelling is part of the hobby. Your "unfortunate distraction" is the prime reason a lot of people play these games.

Impressive! Makes me want to play with all those detailed features, grab that ladder, move that cart, scramble over those fences, go through that gate, climb that wall. Who cares what outcome? Playing with all those toys is what really matters….

I think Snodipous stated my rebuttal better than I could Green Tiger. You are of course entitled to your opinion of things but I think you are very much in the minority in this regard. I offer Great War Ace's comments above as to just one of many reasons war gaming has the appeal it does. I seek to put on games like the ones presented in this post. In fact the photos inspire me to improve what I do.

For me when I put on a game I want it to tell a story and inspire drama. The photos above are a great example of this. One does not require knowledge of the period and its protagonists to understand what is at stake. As Great War Ace so aptly put it, you want to grab that ladder!

Fantastic looking game, it's the scenery that makes it all come to life and inspire s me to do something similar. I think if you prefer the minimalist approach then you really are stuck in the 70s.

The entire Silver Whistle blog is just nuts. (good nuts)

Really impressive stuff.

Having only recently discovered the Silver Whistle blog myself, glad to see it's showing up here on TMP as well!

The man has inspired me to kick my scenery making up a notch!

Green Tiger's characterization of this level of modelling as "an unfortunate distraction" is… unfortunate. If I was just in it for the wargaming, I'd be playing hex-and-counter games published before I was born. Thankfully, these days even modern hex-and-counter games are prettier than that!

Great War Ace, you've also got a good point – detailed playing areas create detailed play. Which is awesome.

an unfortunate distraction

And long and merrily may we be unfortunately distracted from the visually dull and dreary.