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Slappy03 Feb 2013 12:01 a.m. PST

After a fruitless search online I have yet to locate any info of lorries used by Nationalist and republicans. Could someone in this fine establishment assist me?

Martin Rapier03 Feb 2013 2:35 a.m. PST

I generally find Ford trucks (a.k.a. Soviet Gaz AA) do the trick, although my guys have a complete Hodge podge including Opels, an old bus, a rather sporty Anarcist Renault, a police van I picked up somewhere and some very early Morris cars.

Gaz004503 Feb 2013 4:32 a.m. PST

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Ford, Studebaker, Dodge & Chevrolets were imported via France and Portugal to the tune of 12.000 vehicles…..logistical back up in the form of mechanics, parts and 'pol' were also part of the package, Texaco and Standard Oil along with the above companies had deals worth a total of $100 USD million by 1939.
Republican vehicles included Fords via the Barcelona Ford plant and 11,787 imported Soviet trucks- again Ford derivatives Gaz AA and AAA, ZIS 5 etc.
Personally I have a mix of 'early WW2' trucks, especially the older more square looking types as opposed to the sleeker US designs seen in the foto above….

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What scale are you after?
I can throw up a list of types suitable and where to get 'em…..if its 20mm?

Personal logo Lluis of Minairons Sponsoring Member of TMP03 Feb 2013 5:15 a.m. PST

Not 100% certain, but I believe to have read that Barcelona's Ford factory also produced Chevrolet 1937 trucks under license.

Also, we shouldn't forget Hispano-Suiza medium and heavy trucks, whose civilian versions pretty dominated that time Spains' roads. Main factory located in Barcelona too. Look at their beautiful T-69:

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Don't know what precise model it is --but it's an Hispano-Suiza too:

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Hispano-Suiza also produced the transport trucks of Guardia de Asalto Police:

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ottenfeld03 Feb 2013 5:27 a.m. PST

On a trip to Barcelona I saw a book dedicated to the subject. The publisher is Susaeta Ediciones. The book is big and contains lots of illustrations. It is in Spanish, but that should not deter you. It costs very little for such a beautiful book, I recall EUR 15. I don't remember the name of the store, but it was a discount shop, something like "Happy Books'' or ''Prima Books" or similar. I did not buy a copy myself (I bought the book on the arms and uniforms of the SCW myself, which is very nice).

Gaz004503 Feb 2013 5:29 a.m. PST

some great fotos there!!
Thanks Lluis!

macedon03 Feb 2013 5:42 a.m. PST

Thanks for photos.

rvandusen Supporting Member of TMP03 Feb 2013 5:46 a.m. PST

In 20MM Sgt's Mess makes some lovely Fords link

If gaming in 15mm just use GAZ AA for a Ford

Yesthatphil03 Feb 2013 10:08 a.m. PST

Beautiful trucks!

Grelber03 Feb 2013 11:54 a.m. PST

That Hispano-Suiza truck in Lluis first photo is one elegant looking machine! My guys have to settle for GAZ trucks.

Grelber

Slappy03 Feb 2013 12:40 p.m. PST

Is there a place to get the Hispano in 20mm ( the holy scale).

Robert Burke03 Feb 2013 3:53 p.m. PST

In 20mm, I have found the following sources for trucks:

Revirsco (John McEwan of Starguard fame)

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Barcelona Universal Models
Plastic figures and models

henk.fox3000.com/bum.htm

Minairons Miniatures

Early Tanks and other vehicles

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Irregular Miniatures has a general purpose civilian lorry (NCSW38) at link

I hope that helps.

Silent Pool03 Feb 2013 6:07 p.m. PST

Useful. Thanks

BlackWidowPilot Fezian03 Feb 2013 7:37 p.m. PST

Another vote for Reviresco! I've got American Liberty trucks, Daimler Marienfeldt lorries, Model T Ford cars, vans, and pick-ups, a Mercedes Benz 1913 Torpedo roadster, and assorted Rolls Royce limos from Reviresco, and they look simply fetching alongside my assorted Irregular Miniatures SCW figures Republican and Nationalist alike!

Lluis, now you have your marching orders, an Hispano Suiza truck in 1/72 scale plastic!evil grin


Leland R. Erickson
Metal Express
metal-express.net

rvandusen Supporting Member of TMP03 Feb 2013 7:54 p.m. PST

Another good source of useful 1930's trucks in 20MM is Frontline Wargaming: frontlinewargaming.co.uk

C1 SALOON/ STAFF CAR
C2 FLAT BACKED LORRY WITH LOAD
C3 LORRY WITH CANVAS TILT
C4 DELIVERY VAN

These are generic and represent no particular make or model. I have the lorry with canvas tilt and the delivery van. Both are nice with the lorry being a 1.5 ton light truck. The van could be a delivery vehicle or maybe a police van or light ambulance.

Gaz004504 Feb 2013 8:11 a.m. PST

Don't forget the improvised armoured truck from Frontline too (B8)..Morris commercial light truck,their Gaz AA and Zis 5,Fiat 621 and the Fiat car in the Polish range….I've even got one of each type of the Japanese Isuzu trucks for variation-painted in civvy colours …
Irregular have a generic WW1 lorry too (with cargo or mobile flak option!)…
Friend or Foe Miniatures have a nice saloon car (BMW ?) and several truck variations scattered thru' their range…a nice Praga heavy truck….
Second City in the UK produce some resin cars and early war tanks and armoured cars too….these can be somewhat rough in finish but are cheap anyway….
There might be a Hispano Suiza truck in one of the diecast model ranges in 1/76th…….

Gaz004504 Feb 2013 8:16 a.m. PST

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Thanks for the heads up Ottenfeld- added to my shopping list!

Gaz004504 Feb 2013 11:16 a.m. PST

there are several buses out there on the market too…Opel Blitz based when painted up in civvy colours they look good….there are also some Matchbox Yesteryear vehicles that may be useful -trucks and buses.

Gaz004504 Feb 2013 11:16 a.m. PST

There are several buses out there on the market too…Opel Blitz based when painted up in civvy colours they look good….there are also some Matchbox Yesteryear vehicles that may be useful -trucks and buses.

Gaz004504 Feb 2013 12:29 p.m. PST

(oops- teknykal difkiltys!-can The Man fix it?)

The Frontline Mercedes truck with ersatz cab (G2) is a good one to use-comes with a fixed tilt tho'….

Here's a useful link too for all those early US trucks…

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ottenfeld04 Feb 2013 1:30 p.m. PST

Gaz0045,

Yep, that is the one. Even the price is the same. They also do similar coffee table size books on the Division Azul and the Condor Legion, if you're interested.

Personal logo Lluis of Minairons Sponsoring Member of TMP04 Feb 2013 3:39 p.m. PST

Hummmmmmmmmmm…

What about an awesome, stylish, little known armoured car built on T-69 chassis?

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This is the Hispano Suiza MC-36, that lose to the Bilbao the 1935 contest for an AFV for the Guardia de Asalto police.

Can you guess what are we at Minairons designing right now?

GrumpyOldMan04 Feb 2013 5:05 p.m. PST

Hi

In 1/76 there are the Oxford Diecast cars/trucks/etc that can be shoehorned in:-

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Cheers

GrumpyOldMan

Etranger04 Feb 2013 7:38 p.m. PST

Lluis – looking forward to that beast!

anleiher04 Feb 2013 9:04 p.m. PST

Lluis – please oh please make that truck in 15mm.

Personal logo Lluis of Minairons Sponsoring Member of TMP05 Feb 2013 3:02 a.m. PST

It shall be made in all 3 scales: 15, 20 and 28mm :)

In 1/76 there are the Oxford Diecast cars/trucks/etc that can be shoehorned in

Beautiful models!! …are they still easy to find?

Gaz004505 Feb 2013 3:46 a.m. PST

The Oxford stuff is all easily available on Ebay.co.uk. Can be a bit pricey tho'…
That MC36 is great…can't wait!

Jemima Fawr11 Mar 2013 6:58 p.m. PST

The Tenerife Military Museum has a SCW-era Henschel truck that was used by the Nationalists as an artillery tractor. Here's an identical one in Condor Legion colours (the Spanish one was painted sand):

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Gaz004512 Mar 2013 7:43 a.m. PST

Nice looking truck- never seen one in 1/72 (that I know of!)….

Jemima Fawr12 Mar 2013 2:02 p.m. PST

No, I don't recollect seeing any models of that one. Aren't they the trucks used in Raiders of the Lost Ark, or am I imagining that?

Here's the one in Tenerife (in the background):

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kabrank13 Mar 2013 2:29 a.m. PST

Was the Opel Blitz Civilian in use by anyone or where just "military" versions used by the Condor legion?

Would WWII versions be suitable models?

Gaz004513 Mar 2013 7:10 a.m. PST

I have several Blitz's in use for my SCW forces…..the ones with ersatz cabs (timber framing etc) are very handy for that pre war antiquated look!

kabrank14 Mar 2013 10:31 a.m. PST

Hi Gaz

My Opel Blitz are the hard top Pegasus models.

Hopefully they can be used.

Ant Idea on suitable Civilian colours?

Jemima Fawr14 Mar 2013 10:39 a.m. PST

Gaz,

I can only find a couple of references to obscure kits of the Henschel 33 in 1/72nd and one other, equally-obscure kit in 1/76th:

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genew4914 Mar 2013 10:50 a.m. PST

Oxford Diecast Website:
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Also on Amazon US:
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Amazon UK
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Gaz004514 Mar 2013 1:15 p.m. PST

Red cabs were popular, browns,blues and whites too….grey was a fairly common finish for lots of cars and trucks too……See the foots that Lluis posted above- paints were very basic compared to present day….
Thanks RMD….
……Those Henschel's are. 31 Euros each……I have seen a truck cab that looks very similar – I just need to trawl thru' some sites and find it again……!

Gaz004514 Mar 2013 2:52 p.m. PST

Another truck- especially for the Nationalists….

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Won't break the bank either….

kabrank15 Mar 2013 2:48 a.m. PST

Thanks Gaz

Gaz004515 Mar 2013 10:59 a.m. PST

S&S Man 6x6 truck looks very similar to the Henschel-the tilt is a little lower….
Ready to Roll do some nice Citroen trucks too…..

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