"Uh oh, bad/foul comment by a GW person on FB" Topic

Didnt anyone told gw that people take Facebook comments VERY seriously?

And this isnt just some random redshirt, he is apparently the north america's director of growth for gw (now I must admit I have no idea what that really means, but it sounds really important)

That man will not have a good day with the heads of gw I can imagine.

Other sites, such as dakka, have 'confirmed' this to be a legit post and not some fake account

Yet another reason not to play GW games or buy their figs. I can proudly say I never have. And never will.

Funny, He's still under the impression that GW is "the Hobby"

What's the argument about?

You can always tell when someone's hacked or otherwise gained access to someone's FB account: hilarity ensues!

I always love seeing a friend's status that reads "I LOVE LOVE LOVE [other male friend who hacked the account] so much! He's the coolest guy in the world. Everyone should have a man-crush on him like I do!"

It's the GW Hobby.

Looks like it is gone.

Shouldn't it have been "WaaaaaaaGh" rather than "Waaaaaaaah"?

He was fired OVER ten months ago for the comment. This is a moot point.

I always love seeing a friend's status that reads "I LOVE LOVE LOVE [other male friend who hacked the account] so much! He's the coolest guy in the world. Everyone should have a man-crush on him like I do!"

Being a moron and leaving one's facebook account up, or saving the password, does not equal hacking. In fact, it's not even close to hacking unless you're going in an changing lines of code to allow access to places you're not supposed to be.

GW people, making friends everywhere they go.

He should go back to writing Orc codex version 37.

Wonder what the great concept is?

GW in general, or Finecast (aka Finecrap) in particular?

I find it sad that people actually 'liked' his comment.

It is sad. Unfortunate for him (the poster) and it also may expose a common arrogant attitude among the GW muckity-mucks towards their gamer audience and their one-man store managers/slaves. Makes me feel bad for buying their products in the past.

The "us against them" aura of geek elitism helps to bind the "GW zombies" closer to thier masters, emptying thier wallets into the corporate machine. People who reject GM are rewarded with thier own sense of geek elitism. Everyone wins! :)

got banned from their stores many years ago when they stopped selling Avalon hill and D&D and such, and went in and asked where all the games had gone, the new manager (which should have tipped me off) tried to sell me something they had just produced, I likened the product to steaming excrement. he asked me to leave politely, I said no and asked why he wanted a potential customer to leave, he called the police.

when the police arrived, they explained that they did not think wasting their time to visit the scene of a non crime was particularly clever, especially as I was the treasurer of a local wargames club and was visiting with a shopping list of things that up until a month earlier they had in stock (and a wodge of cash to buy it), and the sign on the door said please come in and browse. when the policeman asked if I was going to leave I confirmed that I would, and as no crime had taken place I was free to leave.

I have never brought a product from a games workshop store since, and when a painter needed ink wash from my local store I borrowed a friend's child to make the transaction, since when I vowed I would never shop in a GW store again I meant it.

Never bought into GW products because their overall attitude was clear 15 years ago when I first started up with wargaming.

I likened the product to steaming excrement. he asked me to leave politely, I said no and asked why he wanted a potential customer to leave, he called the police.

I would have politely asked you to leave too.

Also, I may be slightly overweight, however I take issue with the "nasty" comment. I take a shower each morning, wear clean clothes, cut my hair regularly (not self inflicted), shave, and I am usually well-spoken and polite. So, take that, Mark Bolger!

I would have politely asked you to leave too.

Agree. A simple "No thanks, looks like your store focus has changed and isn't for me anymore" would have been the civil thing to do and then leave.

Damon.

Being a moron and leaving one's facebook account up, or saving the password, does not equal hacking. In fact, it's not even close to hacking unless you're going in an changing lines of code to allow access to places you're not supposed to be.

*yawn*

Reading is fundamental.

hacked or otherwise gained access to someone's FB account

*yawn*

GW fanboys believing that someone who works for GW would never say such a thing and that their facebook account had to have been tampered with…

While I agree that he could have said it more diplomatically, the amount of whining CAN get a little tedious at times ;)

ALSO, I may be fat and nasty and an idiot, but I am _not_ a pornstar!

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I would have politely asked you to leave too.

Me too. I don't cotton to such rude and immature behavior. I can't believe you're still proud of it! Wow. Just….wow.

BTW saying what the GW guy said always happens in private among colleagues. His mistake was saying it in public. A classic gaff people have been making even before the Internets came along.

I've seen guys who own gaming companies say things every bit as rude here on TMP, but they aren't called to task for it nearly as much simply because they aren't GW. And they have plenty of unwarranted support from their fans, too.

I see the same fellows gnashing their teeth and shaking their tiny fists about this complete non-issue as on all the other "GW is horrible" threads we see here. I'm not a fan of theirs either, but can't you guys just let it go?

But….
He (and Nazrat) has a point.
Lots of GW bashing and whining can get to a guy.
Even me, who dosen't play GW games (except Blood Bowl and Space Hulk) anymore.
Its the constant "GW this" and "GW that".

Was Finecast a bad idea? Sure. But let it go guys.
Let them know with lack of sales and $$$.
They may see the light.
Or lose the company…

I like the old traditions like GW bashing. It makes me feel safe.

Oh man you kids today and your "new" styles of GW bashing, oh, it's "finecast is this", edition nymber X is this, you don't know how good you have it.

When I was young all we had to complain about was how the prices kept changing, and we liked it!

Why would you refuse to leave a shop if asked to? You have no right to stay in there if asked to leave. Anyone in a shop is there by invitation and this can be withdrawn at anytime. They also do not have give a reason. It was a waste of police time to come and deal with it, but not all the shop managers fault, as you are the one who refused to leave when asked to.

I applaude you for not shopping there again if you do not like the atitude of the company or staff. If you don't like what they have done then explain why POLITELY to them. If they don't like it then take your money elsewhere don't start using expletives or foul language and refuse to leave.
This is just my opinion, feel free to disagree. I just wish everyone took their hobby a little less seriously and didn't want to have stand up arguments.
PS I'm not a GW 'fanboy. I don't think I've ever bought a GW product. I have, however, worked in retail and detest the way that 'customers' feel they have some kind of right to be abusive to staff

As for the original post. A very stupid comment to make.

Wow…and "WOW!"

Can you say, "DUCHE!"

in my defence, I was a very good customer of the games workshop, with a club spend of over ten thousand pounds plus a year ( and this was over twenty years ago) I started off with a very civil where have all the board games gone, and asked about the war of the roses figures and such, and then had a rant from the new manager who was rude and abusive to me, asking why I was not interested in his fantasy products and I explained repeatedly that the new venture was not appreciated by the club. once it got to calling the police on me it made me resolute to never shop in games workshop again.

they had my student photo up in all shops for at least five years.

the customer is always right, even if they are obnoxious, offensive, smelly, racist, naked, swearing, stupid, and downright wrong. they are not an interruption to my job, they are my reason for having a job, and I will do my best to support them.

(and yes I was stabbed by a customer once… but that is a story for another day)

GW, like/dislike, either way you are in a pigeon-hole.

Maddaz111. You have defended your severally very well. Your adding about the manager being rude abusive has definitely swayed me to be on your side again! I also live the way you have replied in such a polte manner to my post, which I admit wasn't very constructive and was probably a bit harsh. I think it stems from years of seeing customers abusive staff and the customer getting away with it. I've noticed that over the years being abusive to a staff member now seems acceptable behaviouir. The customer may be important, but I do feel that if 99 customers are polite and 1 is a completed male chicken then the company can afford to loose the 1 rather than loose ths staff member.

But there is no excuse for the manager being an rrrs though.

Anyway, I'm off topic. I'll go and do something more constructive!

the customer is always right, even if they are obnoxious, offensive, smelly, racist, naked, swearing, stupid, and downright wrong.

No, they aren't. If the product is defective, the customer is always right. If he is a complete jerk that actually makes other customers not want to go into a store anymore because he is always there, then he is wrong, no matter how much he might spend. Our local GW had become a den of the old manager and his four extremely prickish friends, so I only ever went in for paint because they were the last carrier of citadel paints.

New manager asked three of those people to never come back. The fourth changed his tune and now the store is regularly full of people gaming who are friendly and act their age instead of behaving like imbecilic fratboys toward everyone who walks in.

Unfortunately, this was so bad with our LGS that they just took down the two tables they had in there and replaced them with shelves of railroad modeling supplies to force those sort of people from ever coming back. It didn't help that the whole time they'd brag about all the great deals for FoW products online while never supporting the shop, which carried the full range, plus several other companies' 15mm WWII models.

Maddaz111,

…with a club spend of over ten thousand pounds plus a year ( and this was over twenty years ago)

Really ? What UK wargames club has that sort of money to spend ? Where did all that money come from ?

we were quite wealthy. I had a pretty complete run of early white dwarf mags, at least a thousand old GW figures in an early medieval army, a dwarf army.

one member of the club bought two sets of squad leader, and used to play double blind with ref.

we had lots of historic and old fantasy figures, including the old old Lord of the rings figures, a full army for both five armies, and pellanor fields

one member put down over a grand a quarter for figures – we had about sixteen or seventeen members.

they had my student photo up in all shops for at least five years.

Allllllrighty then.

i don't beleive they went to the trouble of posting your picture in a bunch of shops. for 5 years.
and to refuse to leave a shop when asked?
use your glue to assemble models. stop sniffing it.

Heh! Agreed!

the customer is always right, even if they are obnoxious, offensive, smelly, racist, naked, swearing, stupid, and downright wrong. they are not an interruption to my job, they are my reason for having a job, and I will do my best to support them.

(and yes I was stabbed by a customer once… but that is a story for another day)

This seems more like a Monty Python skit than reality.

I would have politely asked you to leave too.

Agree. A simple "No thanks, looks like your store focus has changed and isn't for me anymore" would have been the civil thing to do and then leave.

Damon.

Me too.
If you refused I would have used reasonable force to remove you from private property.

Angel Barracks. Don;t do that. It sounds 'reasonable'. Pu technically you can't use reasonable force just to remove someone from your property. You can only do this if you fear they are going to be violent. If they are just saying I'm not going to leave then you should call the police who can get them to leave by enforcing such things as 'breach of the peace'. I know it sounds daft but if there is nothing to suggest they are going to be violent or start smashing up your property if you use any force you are technically assaulting them. So remember if you need to get rid of someone you need to feel like they are just about to hit you ;-)

Fear not Bad, the mrs is an ex-copper and has versed me in what you can get away with.
I have been threatened on a number of occasions as a retail store manager by some very large people, including a pro rugby player from Bath.
He seemed annoyed by my lack of cowering and left when I picked up the phone and told him I was calling 999.
My insides like were shaking like you would not believe though, he would have broken my face with a single punch.

Some people think they because they are bigger or have more money (like the OP mentions here with his huge club spend) that they are simply better than you.

The world is full of them, always has been, always will be.