| Durando | 14 Jan 2013 1:26 p.m. PST |
Please can anyone advise me as to basing for this rule set, I am planing a European army who is predom Irregular and need some help and direction..
My period is the Russo Turkish war and other allied campaigns |
| Sysiphus | 14 Jan 2013 1:57 p.m. PST |
From page 42: infantry units have 4 bases, which operate in either close or loose formation. They may adopt line, 2 bases wide and two deep; or column, four ranks 1 base wide.
15mm recommends 40 mm; 25mm recommends 60 mm; 28mm recommends 80 mm.
Figures per base: 4 if close; 3 if loose, or cavalry; skirmishers/dragoons 2.
Artillery: 1 gun and 4 crew. Your Russian army for this conflict has Average infantry w/ early breach-loaders, loose order, stay in column all game and always may charge enemy infantry.
All cavalry is classed as Dragoons, average and same weapons as infantry.
Artillery is bronze rifled.
You'll need the rules for the special rules associated w/ the army. Good Luck! |
| Dale Hurtt | 14 Jan 2013 2:58 p.m. PST |
Just to add to the previous post: skirmisher units have two bases, as do cavalry units. Artillery is a single base per unit. I think you will enjoy the rules, although the concepts are a little different than some might be used to. |
| Durando | 14 Jan 2013 7:10 p.m. PST |
Trying to work out how one would base Montenegrin armed village troops – irregular |
| Prince Alberts Revenge | 14 Jan 2013 7:21 p.m. PST |
I would think that the Montengrins would be skirmishers in Neil's rules. |
| Durando | 15 Jan 2013 5:05 a.m. PST |
What depth basing for 25-28mm does everyone work with |
| JonFreitag | 15 Jan 2013 6:31 a.m. PST |
Base Depths: Base depths are not stated in the rules. Only suggestion is that base width is 60mm for 25mm figures. As long as both sides are based similarly, base depth is your choice. |
| Prince Alberts Revenge | 15 Jan 2013 8:31 a.m. PST |
My 10mm figures are based on a 30mm frontage and 15mm depth (for infantry) or 30mm (cavalry and artillery). I also plan to tweak formations so that line is one base deep and four wide, while column is 2x2. |
| mashrewba | 15 Jan 2013 10:18 a.m. PST |
You can make any basing fit these rules -I use infantry units consisting of two bases 90x45mm with 28mm stuff, as long as you can have a column formation and a line formation you're good to go. |
| Dave Wargamer | 16 Jan 2013 3:07 a.m. PST |
skirmisher units have two bases, as do cavalry units Dale, forgive me for correcting you, but I think cavalry have four bases? |
| Dale Hurtt | 17 Jan 2013 9:37 a.m. PST |
Whoops! You are correct. I must of been thinking of something else. The formation is two stands of two ranks for cavalry. Thanks for the catch. |
| Dave Wargamer | 18 Jan 2013 10:08 p.m. PST |
No problem, I'd forgotten skirmishers only have two bases until you mentioned it. |
| campbellab | 19 Jan 2013 6:20 p.m. PST |
Prince Albert's Revenge; you "…plan to tweak formations so that line is one base deep and four wide, while column is 2x2." I was thinking the same. The two deep line formation just doesn't seem right, too short, too deep and too mobile. Perhaps you could have either a 1 or a 2 base wide column to reflect different types of column. Would there be any disadvantage to tweaking like this? All bases seem to fire/melee regardless of formation. |
| Dale Hurtt | 21 Jan 2013 8:34 p.m. PST |
For the FPW, I think that 2x2 for line is proper. The first "rank" are the skirmisher lines thrown out and the second "rank" are formed supports in company column. At least that is how I have my 6mm figures based! |
| campbellab | 23 Jan 2013 4:58 p.m. PST |
You're right that would be 2x2, but I thought it was a uniquely Prussian formation. I was also thinking it might need a special rule. |
| Dale Hurtt | 25 Jan 2013 7:56 a.m. PST |
My reading is that the French threw out skirmishers too. What differed is the formed supports behind the skirmish line that looked different (not company columns). Dale |
| richinq | 30 Nov 2014 10:33 p.m. PST |
Hi, will be getting this book for christmas, I will be doing the russo-turkish war, Ogdenlulimus posted about the Russian army was wondering about the Turkish army. are there infantry loose order as well.also the Turkish cavalry are they all Dragoons or not. Would like to get my figures based ready for the rules Many Thanks Rich. |
| KTravlos | 01 Dec 2014 6:59 a.m. PST |
My own armies (Russo-Turkish war) are based on 20mm squares for infantry (4 figures to a sqaure) and 25mm squares for cavalry (2 figures to a square) and artillery. Infantry and cavalry(dragoons) units are 4 bases, skirmish are two, artillery one. Ottoman Army for 1877 is Regular Infantry (Nizam and veteran Redif): Elite, Later Breechloader, Loose Order Militia (Redif and Mustafiz): Levy, Early Breechloader, Loose Order Bashi-Bazouk Skirmishers: Rabble, Smooth-bore Musket Dragoons: Levy, Rifled Musket Aritllery: Steel Rifled |
| KTravlos | 01 Dec 2014 7:01 a.m. PST |
Here is Battle Report of a game, with my armies and how they look link |
| richinq | 01 Dec 2014 9:53 a.m. PST |
K'Travlos, Thanks for the info. I liked your battle report a lot. Got to get painting now. Many Thanks Rich. |
worries about not losing his rules stuff.