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Frankss12 Jan 2013 10:21 a.m. PST

I'm starting a 28mm Japanese army. But I also will have a token British?Indian force eventually for friends to use.

I was considering Grants / Lees for the Allies and read this on TMP:

R Mark Davies 20 Nov 2012 1:23 p.m. PST
Nice one. However, I'd add that Lees were also supplied to Britain (not 'England') once the supply of Grant Mk I dried up. The British designated six different marks of Lee, but for some reason designated the M3A5 as the 'Grant Mk II', even though it retained the American turret… Baffling, I know…

The majority of British armoured regiments in the Far East circa 1944-45 were formed from Lee tanks (5 regiments in all, as opposed to 4 of Shermans and 2 of Stuarts), with one regiment also having a few of the last remaining Grant Mk Is. They were also employed by Australia in the Pacific. The Lee-Grant was a perfectly decent tank for the War Against Japan, outclassing anything the Japanese could field and serving with distinction right to the end of the war in Burma.

Now I've noticed Comapany B sells a Grant but does anyone sell a 28mm 1/56 Lee that I could use.

If I can't find a Lee I may consider a Stuart, in that theatre what model would it be; a Honey ?

I noticed Company sells Japanese tank decals but not for the 14th tank regiment, does anyone know of someone who sells for the 14th. ( I saw Dom's generic Japanese decals).

Thanks

No Name12 Jan 2013 10:33 a.m. PST

Hi Frankss, Company B do have both the Lee and the Grant (the M3-Lee is about halfway down the United States page in their shop). For anyone on the European side of the pond, I also have both in my shop.
Bob.

Phil Gray12 Jan 2013 10:59 a.m. PST

If you have a look at what 7th Royal Tank Regiment had in the Western Desert – M3A1? then that'll be what they toook to Burma.

You may also want Indian Pattern Wheeled Carriers – these are available (prob via Warlord these days) as an alt to Bren Carriers…

Phil Gray12 Jan 2013 11:05 a.m. PST

hmm, had a look on Bob's site, and the Indian Pattern are a Company B item…

MHoxie12 Jan 2013 2:00 p.m. PST

For Japanese 14th regiment, you can probably freehand it at 28mm without much trouble:

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and according to the link, tanks added to the regiment later had no unit insignia.

Frankss12 Jan 2013 7:44 p.m. PST

Thank You very much !

I had wondered about the Indian pattern carrier, thanks

deldietch13 Jan 2013 12:10 a.m. PST

As Bob mentioned, vehicles for Burma and the Pacific is what we specialize in. For Burma we have the M3 Lee, M3 Grant, Matilda Frog, M3 Honey, and Australian M3 Stuart as well as other British vehicles such as the CS8 15 trucks, CWT 30 covered ambulance and Indian pattern carrier.

We have plenty of Japnese tankettes and tanks and softskins :-)

For Japanese 14th reg decals, we do offer custom decal sets. either single sets ir multiple copies. About the same price as regular sets depending on the complexity of the art.

Regards,
Brent
CompanyB

Jemima Fawr13 Jan 2013 11:35 a.m. PST

Frankss,

Have a look at my Burma Armour painting guide on the Battlefront WW2/Fire & Fury website: fireandfury.com as that will give you all the info you need regarding who had what, markings, etc. Sorry I can't give you the direct link, but this (work) computer won't let me access that site.

Further to what was said in the earlier thread, you can certainly mix in the odd Grant Mk I and 146 RAC certainly had several Grant Mk Is in the Arakan in 1945. Here are two of them photographed on Ramree island in 1945:

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Note that most Lees in Burma had the commander's cupola removed, but some retained it. Here are some with and without cupolas:

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Re Stuarts: If you're looking at doing the 1942 campaign, you'll need Stuart Mk I (M3 – octagonal turret) for 7th Armoured Brigade (2 RTR & 7th Hussars). The Japanese also then captured and used a few of these tanks, up until 1944. The Indian 7th and 45th Cavalry in 1944-45 used Stuart Mk III (M3A1 – cylindrical turret).

Here's a Stuart Mk I belonging to 7th Armoured Brigade in 1942:

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Here's a Stuart Mk III belonging to 7th Light Cavalry in 1945:

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One solitary Stuart Mk I survived the 1942 campaign and was converted into the CO's command tank for the 7th Light Cavalry, becoming the only AFV to come out of Burma in 1942 and go back again in 1945:

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The US-Chinese Provisional Tank Group in Burma used Stuart Mk V (M3A3):

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Frankss13 Jan 2013 4:52 p.m. PST

Great Info again Thanks

Jemima Fawr14 Jan 2013 9:52 a.m. PST

Here's that link: PDF link

uglyfatbloke08 Feb 2013 6:21 a.m. PST

Much obliged for all this info. Cheers!

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