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Kaoschallenged10 Jan 2013 5:36 p.m. PST

After going through all my photos on my external hard drive I noticed quite a few photos where either Axis vehicles had some part of an Allied vehicle or weapons system on it or vice versa.The Germans did it to quite a few of course especially to the French vehicles that we have seen. Others I have seen are,

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Yugoslavian Partisan M3A3 with an Pak50 75mm gun
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M3A3 with quad 20mm Flak-38V

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US rocket launcher on German halftrack
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What others are out there?
Robert

MAD MIKE10 Jan 2013 5:48 p.m. PST

There's always this one, using Bren carriers captured from the BEF:
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Kaoschallenged10 Jan 2013 9:14 p.m. PST

I think there is a profusion of information and photos of the Vehicles use by the Germans. Here is a modified Churchill with a PZ III cupola used by the British. Robert

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"Churchill Mk IV 'Bushmills' of the North Irish Horse, note the Panzer III cupola to increase the commanders view when battened down. "
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Etranger10 Jan 2013 11:17 p.m. PST

Bushmills is actually a very rare variant for another reason as well. – it has two 3" howitzers, one in the turret & one in the hull. It's the I CS version IIRC. Take a look at northirishhorse.net & say hi to Gerry Chester.

Kaoschallenged10 Jan 2013 11:22 p.m. PST

"Just before crossing the Rhine, the US Army took a bunch of captured 251's and mounted "Screamin Mimi" rocket launchers on them. They were then driven or towed into position to launch a huge barrage – and then abandoned afterwards."
Robert

Barin111 Jan 2013 2:42 a.m. PST

Red Army first tried to restore "original" version, but there were some 76 mm SAU based on german chassis…some photoes in this article shows that the scale of the repairs was quite noticeable.(the article is taken from Kolomyets book)
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also found that several german tanks were listed in August operation against Japan, so you can have a scenario when a Panther is putting holes in Japanese armor ;)

some pics here shows Russian armor in German service, including T-34 revamped with 85 mm gun. Several such tanks that were captured later on were loved by Russian tankers.
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article and pictures of SU-76i, based on PzKpfw or Stug 3
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Kaoschallenged11 Jan 2013 3:05 a.m. PST

Perhaps I should have been a little more clearer. I have many of the photos with the German modified vehicles.It has been discussed here quite often. Thats not really the information I'm looking for though. What I was thinking of was the use by the Allies of parts of, or weapons systems of, the Axis being used on Allied vehicles such as evidenced by the examples I posted. Robert

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20mm Breda AA/AT Gun
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Lorry Mounted Breda Gun
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Kaoschallenged11 Jan 2013 3:30 p.m. PST

Some of the ACs in the Western Desert mounted captured Breda 20mm guns on their Marmon-Herringtons. Robert

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"A Marmon-Herrington Mk II armoured car armed with an Italian Breda 20mm gun, near Tobruk, 8 May 1941."
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Kaoschallenged11 Jan 2013 9:23 p.m. PST

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LRDG Chevy CW 30 with Italian Breda
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Kaoschallenged11 Jan 2013 11:32 p.m. PST

Some of the Marmon-Herringtons were also rearmed with German 37mm Pak 36 and Italian 47mm guns. Robert

Kaoschallenged12 Jan 2013 11:30 a.m. PST

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Another nice shot of the LRDG using a captured Breda 20mm gun mounted on a Chevy. Robert

Kaoschallenged12 Jan 2013 6:05 p.m. PST

Just now read about a Yugoslavian Partisan Universal Carrier armed with twin MG-81Z MGs from a crashed German Ju-87.

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Robert

Kaoschallenged13 Jan 2013 2:17 p.m. PST

The only photo I can find of it. Robert

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Kaoschallenged14 Jan 2013 10:22 p.m. PST

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Another shot of the Flak Stuart. Robert

Kaoschallenged15 Jan 2013 11:19 p.m. PST

stef124.tripod.com/gal-prva5.htm
Jugoslav Partisan AEC AC and Stuart with Pak 40

Kaoschallenged18 Jan 2013 12:22 p.m. PST

Still haven't been able to find a shot of the 150mm sIG33 mounted M3. I have read it was lost in it's first action though.And about the Pak armed ones,
"About the M3A3 with an Pak50 75mm gun, Bow MG was removed, ammo storage was ~25 rounds, side armor around gun was made from destroyed SdKfz-251. Total of 5 were converted and 3 were still operational in 1949"
mailer.fsu.edu/~akirk/tanks
Robert

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