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iain191405 Jan 2013 11:15 p.m. PST

Hi Guys,
looking for some help as the title says.

i am going to purchase two Navwar starter packs for the above and I have tracked down a good source for ships colours (Mal Wright web page).

However, to facilitate my venture into the unknown can anyone please provide suitable Vallejo paints for the 'standard' colours for both navies?

Appreciate any help offered.

One final question…any recommended 'skirmish' rules Up to 10 ships per side) for this period?

HammerHead05 Jan 2013 11:48 p.m. PST

grey

iain191406 Jan 2013 2:35 a.m. PST

Thanks HammerHead I had sort of worked that out myself so thanks if you were trying to be helpful but I suspect more a childish attempt at humour!!!!! given that World War One is listed as a zone of interest for you. Oh how I nearly laughed.

Fortunately not all subscribers on here are as helpful as you.

Porthos06 Jan 2013 4:26 a.m. PST

Perhaps this site will help you on the way (although unfortunately it is not a direct answer to your question): link
The third response (by battlewagon) has a link to the original German colours chart. Comparing it with a Vallejo colour card should be simple !
The various other responses give exact number of corresponding colours by other brands, this should help too.

MajorB06 Jan 2013 6:01 a.m. PST

Unfortunately, "grey" is about as close as you are likely to get. WW1 just about pre-dates colour photography and without any reliable colour reference, the best you are going to find is what colour(s) they OUGHT to be and not what colour(s) actually WERE.

iain191406 Jan 2013 8:59 a.m. PST

Thanks Porhos and margard for your assistance.
I shall check the link out it looks very helpful and informative.

I appreciate your comment Margard regarding 'grey' and perhaps I should have been more detailed in my question, but as I thought this was a 'specialist' category it would be presummed that I meant more detialed items of the ships. For instance, I understand that the decks were covered with lino' and would have hoped that someone could have ventured a vallejo colour which would have been a good representation. Other items such as funnels;or the darker grey for German ships; lighter for British; gun coverings, etc. However, that said I appreciate the help offered and shall now throw myself into this minor project with this information.

Regards

MajorB06 Jan 2013 11:14 a.m. PST

This link might help:
link

For instance, I understand that the decks were covered with lino' and would have hoped that someone could have ventured a vallejo colour which would have been a good representation.

Decks covered with linoleum? Possibly inside, but surely not on those exposed to the weather?

iain191406 Jan 2013 2:09 p.m. PST

Thanks again Magard for your assistance.

With regards to the query regarding lino…from the web page you suggest I coppied the following

'S.M.S. EMDEN (CL): foredeck and quarterdeck Linoleum, the lower deck amidship wooden. '


Also from Thomo's Hole(web page)
'…Cortesine was a mid brown linoleum type decking used on small ships in areas where the crew required a good foot grip but timber would have been too heavy. Cortesine was also used on larger ships as an alternative to wood on high areas such as the bridge and bridge wings, where men had to stand for long hours on watch. This was to protect their feet from the cold '

So whilst it may seem strange this would bear it out.I have also note on doing a Google image search of Navwar and Davco models that decks have been painted a brownish colour for British and a very light grey(?) blue for German ships.
Although I would have to admit my lack of knowledge of matters naval may lead to me using the wrong terms ie deck = bridge etc (If so apologies for any confusion which my reply may cause)


Whilst I accept that these will only be models which I shall probably paint then store away nerver to see the light of day I would still like to get a fairly historic representation.

Though as all painters will be aware we can never (well hardly ever) be 100% confident in our finished article.

Doesn't stop us trying though.

Regards

dmclellan06 Jan 2013 9:36 p.m. PST

One source for Mal Wright's article on WWI colors can be found here.

link

I find his work to generally be well researched. It doesn't give you Vallejo paint colors. Look for grey shades that are mostly pure greys, not blue-greys.

Vallejo Basalt Grey might be a good WWI Brit color.


Another color source is here PDF link
It's for WWII and the interwar period, but it may give you some leads.

Now I see you've already seen Mal Wright's article and some one else referenced Thomo's Hole. I blame it on the bottle of wine I split with my wife over dinner. :)

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