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House Palmer Inactive Member01 Jan 2013 8:47 p.m. PST

What is the Ship scale of GW Man O' War?
I heard 2mm or 1/900 is the approx scale. Any other input?

Volstagg Vanir01 Jan 2013 10:52 p.m. PST

1:1200 scale is the closest for most of the ships, although some
(being much larger than historical ships)
are better at around 1:600 or even larger

If you want to check how close a given model is in size,
the Sea Of Claws mailing list has a database listing the dimensions of every ship.
link
Yes, its a Yahoo group: If you are looking at MoW, it's very worth joining.

David Manley01 Jan 2013 11:54 p.m. PST

IIRC the Black Ark is significantly undersized. I saw a model of one in 28mm at Games Day about 10 years ago and it was massive!

jpattern2 Supporting Member of TMP02 Jan 2013 8:47 a.m. PST

Yes, the Black Ark is probably closer to 1/1500 or even 1/2000. Who can tell with fantasy ships with few clues to scale?

Other ships range from about 1/600 to 1/1200, but most are around 1/900 or 1/1000.

Yes, 2mm ships, troops, and terrain work well with MoW.

And I'll second the recommendation of The Sea of Claws, being one of the mods. :)

Gattamalata02 Jan 2013 10:00 a.m. PST

IIRC the Black Ark is significantly undersized. I saw a model of one in 28mm at Games Day about 10 years ago and it was massive!

Based on the fluff, Black Arks are supposed to be mobile cities/fortresses with storage to launch smaller vessels, so they are undersized, but the same problem exists in Battlefleet Gothic.

House Palmer Inactive Member03 Jan 2013 9:01 p.m. PST

thank you for the input shis should help.

My next question is does anybody know any miniature companies who make historical ships with similar scale? I am looking at combining other ships with MoW ships, such as medieval, renaissance , and antiquities. I plan on moding some to fit fantasy sea battle. They dont have to be perfect scale just close enough. I am new at this area of wargaming. thank you for all the help

jpattern2 Supporting Member of TMP04 Jan 2013 7:20 a.m. PST

The Sea of Claws has lots of resources for you, including a list of proxy ships in the Files section (not updated since 2007, though) and several variations on paper ships based on the official MoW ships.

A few ideas for proxies:

Some of the Spartan Games Uncharted Seas and Dystopian Wars ships are close to MoW scale.

The same goes for GW's Dreadfleet, and you can buy individual ships from the game on Ebay from resellers.

Green Forest Trading ( greenforesttradingco.com ) does his own versions of Human, Lizardman, Undead, and Steam/Dwarf ships.

Ral Partha Europe has been rereleasing the old Hobby Products Demonworld minis. This year they should get around to the Empires ships and terrain. They're slightly smaller sscale than MoW ships, but a few of them would work well. The Orc ships in particular work well as a Goblin fleet.

GHQ does 1/1200 Napoleonic ships.

Langton does 1/1200 ships for ancient, American Civil War, Baltic, Napoleonic, Anglo-Dutch, Renaissance, and American Great Lakes eras. They also do lots of 1/1200 terrain items.

Navwar does 1/1200 ships for the ancient, Renaissance, Dutch Wars, Napoleonic, and ACW eras. Their cogs are especially nice. Their Viking longships are tiny in 1/1200, much smaller than the MoW Norse Longships. They also do Chinese junks.

Outpost does some great little 1/1200 Medieval cogs.

Valiant does 1/1200 ships for the Spanish Main and 1/900 Ramming Speed ships.

The old Wizkids Pirates of the Spanish Main ships make useful proxies, and they're available cheap on Ebay.

There are probably other fantasy and historical proxies out there that I'm not aware of yet. :)

House Palmer Inactive Member04 Jan 2013 11:45 p.m. PST

Thank you for the input it helps :-).

Thank you Jpattern2 for the list.

I am new to this site and already more than pleased with the help. Cheers.

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