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Ernesto1964 Inactive Member24 Dec 2012 4:23 a.m. PST

Dear Sirs,

I am new member, and will like first to say Happy Christmas to all. And sorry for my bad English.

I am in the bigger historical casting miniatures for other companies, small ones.

After other companies have come out with resin / plastic similar products we have invested in chemist and research and obtained a formula of plastic. This can melt and poured in gravity mold, injection machines and spincaster. Very good details better then metal, no air bubbles.

We have now 3 formulas soft, mediium and hard.

We are working on mold product now we have some issues with tearing and breakage, need to refine mold making and material.

We have invested a lot to obtain the formula, and will like to know if it is posisble to sell the material or formula, how much is it worth in cash the formula?

We are open to suggestion.

I am on holiday till beggining of Jan. with maybe no internet.

Happy Christmas and Happy New Year.


Ciuccio Inactive Member01 Jan 2013 4:19 a.m. PST

Hi Ernesto,
this is a great news for people like me :)
I'm very interested in your material.

I think the better choice for you is selling the material and not the formula. Formula can "accidental" arrive on internet, so, IMHO, the best choice for you is keep it secret. For protect your investment selling the material is the best option (again IMHO).

In any case I'm really interested in. What exactly the problem with moulds? Do you mean spincast moulds?

Can I have a copy of your miniatures printed with this new material for look it? material is stable? how many years has the most old piece? One of the problem of these new plastic/resin is stability along time. Something they continue the reaction and in a year the piece cage appeal or reject paint.

Griefbringer07 Jan 2013 6:37 a.m. PST

In case your formula is sufficiently original, you might want to obtain patent protection for it. This would mean that the formula itself would become public after time, but people wanting to use it to produce the material would be required to pay a lisencing fee to you, and this could be enforced in a court of law. If you are planning on lisencing out the formula, make sure to have a patent on it first – otherwise you could be in trouble if the formula leaks out.

Obtaining a patent will involve some financial costs, please contact your national patent office for more info. Actually defending your patent in a court of law might also involve some legal expenses, so you might want to prepare also for that possibility in the long term.

If you want to keep the formula as a trade secret, and only trade in the actual material, you might want to consider the risk of somebody with access to the final material reverse engineering the formula based on it. Or some third party might accidentally come up with the same formula.

Ernesto1964 Inactive Member10 Jan 2013 12:39 p.m. PST

Griefbringer, unfortunately the formula 'was obtained using a process of reverse engineering of some products already in use by other companies, we have changed the formula of getting 3 plastic resin with 3 different hardness's for our purposes. We checked in and 'formula no has patent protection. Plus's clear that after the announcement of the formula no one can tell me that quantities are used. My goal is to 'sell the formula to those who are' concerned to recover the cost spent on reverse engineering. I've already received a number of contacts, and I think that in the period between April and May sell the formula. Right now they are five companies that have contacted us for this product.

The special thing about this plastic resin 'which can be used as the metal into a spincaster and it' very useful if you use models to very big and bulky like the ones we use due to the low weight that offers the ease 'work. Plus if it is warped just heat it in a common oven back in this position or can be easily repositioned. The biggest problem is that this mix and 'highly flammable, and we are trying to add something to the point of lower ignition.

Translated with Google hope you understand.

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