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Mako11 Supporting Member of TMP15 Dec 2012 2:22 a.m. PST

Okay, assuming at some point the Polls get turned back on again, which fighters, and/or other ships do you want to see included in Wave 3, and later, of FFG's X-Wing game?

Let's consider this a preliminary poll, which can then be amended to include the top candidates for the finalists.

If we're lucky, perhaps FFG will even take a look at the results, and might even consider some of our favorite choices for Waves 3, and 4, assuming they produce those.

Please list suggestions in rank order, from highest at the top (#1 position), to the lowest at the bottom.

For me, some of the obvious standouts are:

1. Tie Defender
2. B-Wing
3. Tyderium Shuttle
4. Z-95 Headhunter
5. Tie Bomber

Those are the ones that come to mind immediately, though I imagine some of the other Tie variants, and/or other ships might supercede a number of the above, especially the Z-95 and the Tie Bomber.

Thoughts?

ming3115 Dec 2012 6:52 a.m. PST

Figure to see original movie ships first , Tie Bomber , B wing , Shuttle ,

Garand15 Dec 2012 8:51 a.m. PST

1. TIE Bomber
2. B-wing
3. Z-95 headhunter
4 Tyderium Shuttle
5, TIE Defender

Damon.

Personal logo Ivan DBA Supporting Member of TMP15 Dec 2012 10:30 a.m. PST

I agree with Ming31. I'd bet money they never make anything as obscure as the Headhunter. The B-Wing is a no brainer for Wave 3, because it is the only ship left that was in a space battle from the original series. I'm guessing they'll include the TIE Bomber and Imperial Shuttle too. Other than those, who knows? I reckon they might even do the Cloud City cloud car before they do something that wasn't in the original films.

Personal logo Dom Skelton Sponsoring Member of TMP15 Dec 2012 11:25 a.m. PST

I think they'll want to match the shuttle up with another large like with the Falcon & Slave I, so it may be a head scratcher. My suspicion is they probably will try a couple of non-film ones in Wave 3, to see if they sell enough to continue that way. TIE Bomber and B-Wing are obvious no-brainers, with maybe the TIE Advanced (production type) and the Z-95 to make up the four. Going beyond the films is going to be a gamble, but the X Wing computer games had a huge following when they were out, so types recognisable from them might do well enough.

Disco Joe15 Dec 2012 5:40 p.m. PST

I agree with the three that ming31 suggested.

GiantMonster15 Dec 2012 6:14 p.m. PST

I'd drop the Headhunter and add the Snowspeeder or the T-16 Skyhopper.

-Ken

Personal logo Ivan DBA Supporting Member of TMP15 Dec 2012 8:24 p.m. PST

I don't think the Snowspeeder is capable of space flight.

Personal logo War Panda Supporting Member of TMP15 Dec 2012 10:42 p.m. PST

Don't forget the ewok hand glider…I was disappointed it wasn't in the second wave

Ghostrunner16 Dec 2012 8:46 a.m. PST

My guess is obvious 3:

TIE Bomber
Imperial Shuttle
B Wing

For the last rebel ship, the only obvious choice would be Dash Rendar's Outrider. Shadows of the Empire is a little more well known than some of the other EU. The trick would be making it different enough from the Falcon.

GiantMonster16 Dec 2012 12:18 p.m. PST

I hope the game isn't limited to spacefaring vehicles. The Star Wars universe has some cool atmospheric vehicles, like the Wookie ships.

I'd also like to be able to field a force of Snowspeeders against an AT-AT, hey, I can dream. :)

-Ken

werwulf Inactive Member16 Dec 2012 12:59 p.m. PST

I'm wondering if they have prequel ships in mind. I was never fond of the prequels, so would much rather see Non-Canon ships like the E-wing, Tie variants and Headhunters, but it would seem to be a logical venue.

Personal logo War Panda Supporting Member of TMP16 Dec 2012 3:32 p.m. PST

I'd also like to be able to field a force of Snowspeeders against an AT-AT

Ken that would be super cool for sure!

Anthon16 Dec 2012 3:39 p.m. PST

1. TIE Bomber
2. B Wing
3. Death Star

vojvoda Inactive Member17 Dec 2012 5:45 a.m. PST

Ha Ha Anthon that is a good one!


My guess:

B Wing
Tie Bomber
Imperial Shuttle.

1st of NEVER realease:

Death Star Version 1.0 and 2.0

VR
James Mattes

Personal logo richarDISNEY of the RDGC Supporting Member of TMP17 Dec 2012 8:33 a.m. PST

Jedi Starfighters
Droid Trade Federation ships
Naboo Starfighters
beer

Personal logo Dom Skelton Sponsoring Member of TMP17 Dec 2012 10:46 a.m. PST

Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!

Ahem, I mean hurrah, yes prequel ships would be just smashing…. :-(

Personal logo Dom Skelton Sponsoring Member of TMP17 Dec 2012 11:11 a.m. PST

Actually scale would be a problem for Episode 1 – the droid ships are tiny, which people are likely to take umbrage at….

rhacelt18 Dec 2012 5:19 a.m. PST

I would like to see the entire Rogue Squadron. Maybe a special X-Wing with cards for all the pilots.

afilter Supporting Member of TMP18 Dec 2012 10:42 a.m. PST

The game will not have many expansions if they stick to only Galactic Civil War. Bwing and tie bomber are obvious choices. My concern is that maybe FFG has included to much to soon by releasing 8 iconic ships in the first two expansions.

One way to avoid the clone wars would be reprints with repainted ships new pilots and upgrades.

So maybe wave 3 would be:
B-wing
Tie bomber
X-wing (rogue sqaudron)
Tie Fighter (special sdrn)

Could possibly stretch out 2 or more waves that way before launching a clone wars core set.

Not crazy about reprints, but if new cards(essentially new ships) are included I would want at least 1 of each. It would not matter to new players.

Most importantly it could keep the game active longer with new releases.

Thoughts?

Ghostrunner18 Dec 2012 12:20 p.m. PST

I wonder if they'd have any luck with a Rebel / Empire specific starter set, that included some extra pilots.

Rebel set might have 1 of each of the 4 common fighters (A/B/X/Y), move templates, cards, and some new pilots?

Imps would have to have 5-6 ships to make them balanced.

Biggest problem I see from a marketing perspective… how many pilot special abilities can they come up with before they break the game in some fashion?

cbaxter18 Dec 2012 1:50 p.m. PST

what about…

TIE bomber
B-Wing
Lambda Shuttle
and…

a Corellian Star Shuttle to replace the silly tojen from the starter set, i know it might be to big but it would ocmpliment the Lambda. if not that some other rebel type shuttle to go with the Lambda.

also I think they should do a card expansion that give more pilots, named pilots and upgrade cards

Mako11 Supporting Member of TMP18 Dec 2012 2:56 p.m. PST

"My concern is that maybe FFG has included to much to soon by releasing 8 iconic ships in the first two expansions".

Nah, strike while the iron's hot, I say.

A shame the second wave isn't available before Christmas.

Uesugi Kenshin Supporting Member of TMP18 Dec 2012 3:26 p.m. PST

Those are some mighty expensive minis!

Bandolier Supporting Member of TMP18 Dec 2012 3:28 p.m. PST

They seem to be releasing them in sets of 4 ships with 2 ships per 'side'. So the TIE Bomber, B-Wing and Shuttle sounds likely. Perhaps another rebel ship or even another Bounty Hunter ship?

Mako11 Supporting Member of TMP18 Dec 2012 5:39 p.m. PST

True, at full retail, but some have been selling them for $8 USD – $10 USD, which is a bit more reasonable.

I'd like to see them go with an all fighters release, and then do the Tyderium Shuttle, and any other larger ships as one-off releases.

So, that would leave us with:

1. Tie Defender
2. B-Wing
3. Z-95 Headhunter
4. Tie Bomber

Two each for the Rebels and Imperials, and then the Shuttle as a dual use vessel.

Abwehrschlacht27 Dec 2012 11:55 a.m. PST

I've been looking at buying X-Wing for a while, but one of my problems with it is that there are only a handful of ships to use in the game. This thread has kind of proved that.

How much longevity does the game have with this number of ships? I play WoW/G and there are plenty of aircraft to go at already, especially when one uses the cards! Will this be a stumbling block for X-Wing? This is a genuine question as I am genuinely thinking of buying it!

Personal logo Parzival Supporting Member of TMP27 Dec 2012 9:17 p.m. PST

My guess, in order:

B-Wing
TIE Bomber
Lamda Shuttle (Empire)

These are a surety, as they're in the original trilogy. For the final ship of the four, I'm not sure. There really aren't any more craft available in the films, and it would need to be a Rebel ship. Perhaps a Rebel version of the Lambda shuttle? Or maybe they would trot out the Z-95 or even a T-16 Skyhopper and treat the latter as a spaceship?

Another possibility is that they go "large" and produce a near-scale Tantive IV… but I doubt it. It would mainly be a hard, slow target. Still, that's pretty much what the Zeppelin is in Wings of War, and taking one on can make for a fun game. Given the antecedent, it's a possibility.

How much longevity does the game have with this number of ships?

Actually, the game creates a lot of variety even with only a few ships, as each ship type has different levels of generic pilots available with different skills— not to mention unique pirates like Luke Skywalker, Wedge Antilles, Darth Vader, etc., and some conveniently created "nickname" TIE pilots. So just because you're in an X-wing facing a couple of TIEs doesn't mean you're in the same X-wing facing the same TIEs each game. The fighters can also be boosted with included "upgrade" cards which range among astromech droids, secondary weapons, or additional pilot skills, each adding different combat abilities to make a ship truly unique in character and play. So each additional ship is really a case of adding multiple unique ship characteristics to the game; there's a lot more bang to your buck with this game than there was with Wings of War (and I love Wings of War). Plus, the game adds variety simply in the fact that you can have "spaceborne" obstacles/terrain like asteroids, satellites, etc.— something that doesn't and couldn't reasonably exist in Wings of War (unless you count balloons). I'm very pleased with it, and with its replay value.

Abwehrschlacht28 Dec 2012 1:37 a.m. PST

Thanks for that Parzival. Having named pilots is not something I'd considered actually and you've certainly cleared up a few queries. It sounds like it has a lot more variety of play than I took it for!

Fire Broadside30 Dec 2012 1:25 p.m. PST

I noticed in the downloadable adventure for FFG's new Star Wars rpg that there's a Dunelizard fighter featured. It's a neutral/hutt ship first conceived in the Star Wars Galaxies MMORPG. link

It has some nice art and stats and considering FFG loves to recycle art we can probably expect to see it in the LCG and perhaps as part of a third neutral/pirate faction? Would be interesting.

The Z-95 is probably well enough known to make the cut, but if they bring out the shuttle there would need to be some equally large ships for the rebels. An YT-2400 feels too close to the release of the Falcon. What other medium ships are there?

I also think we're more likely to see a rebel transport rather than a Corellian Corvette.

Mako11 Supporting Member of TMP31 Dec 2012 8:35 p.m. PST

There are tons of Tie Fighter variants, so they could do 2 – 3 waves of just those, before running out of fighters, if they so choose.

Some are rather ugly, but some quite nice looking, so I'm hoping for at least 1 – 2 more waves for Episodes 4 – 6, plus the fighters in some of the computer games.

3rd Foot and Mouth06 Jan 2013 6:53 p.m. PST

One issue with the Headhunter is that its 'thing' was that it was the precursor to the X-Wing, a role that I believe the Clone ARC Fighter from Episode 3 has taken over.

Ghostrunner07 Jan 2013 1:11 p.m. PST

Maybe, but they sure seem to have different roles…

Headhunter was always portrayed as a fighter (short ranged, one man).

ARC Fighter looks to me more like a USAF FB-111 in terms of role… primarily an attack plane, with illusions of being able to dogfight if needed.

The Red Baron09 Jan 2013 2:39 p.m. PST

my guess is the last of the original movie ships first:

1. B-Wing
2. TIE Bomber
3. TIE Shuttle
4. Lambda Class shuttle

then onto the expanded universe stuff with a TIE Defender and Z95 Headhunter leading the way

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