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Kaoschallenged09 Dec 2012 6:27 p.m. PST

Here is a new model for some to make. Robert

"Sham II: New fighting machine of Syria rebels
by Staff Writers
Bishqatin, Syria (AFP) Dec 9, 201
From a distance it looks rather like a big rusty metal box but closer inspection reveals the latest achievement of Syrian rebels: a home-made armoured vehicle waiting to be deployed.

Sham II, named after ancient Syria, is built from the chassis of a car and touted by rebels as "100 percent made in Syria."

It required a "month of work" for the design, assembly and development of the vehicle, says its designer Mahmud Abud from the Al-Ansar rebel brigade in the Aleppo region of northwest Syria.

The fully-enclosed vehicle made from light steel is about four metres (yards) in length and two metres across, mounted with a 7.62 mm machinegun controlled from inside the cabin.

The vehicle has five cameras: three at the front, one in the back and another attached to the gun.

The crew inside the cabin are fully protected, with the driver manoeuvring the vehicle by watching a screen which displays video from the cameras.

The gunner, seated next to the driver, can activate the machinegun by watching another screen and using a control stick equipped with push buttons."

link

Jemima Fawr09 Dec 2012 6:41 p.m. PST

How do they check the oil and water?

Sloppypainter09 Dec 2012 6:46 p.m. PST

Reminds me of some of the armored contraptions used during the Spanish Civil War…except for the camersa.

morrigan09 Dec 2012 6:49 p.m. PST

Guess it ok that it won't withstand rpg rockets. You hardly ever see those over there……. ;)

Artraccoon09 Dec 2012 6:50 p.m. PST

SHAM-WOW!!

Well, it looks pretty easy to model…a toy car chassis, some plastic card, and lots of rust colored paint.

The cameras are kinda cool, the poor man's vision block…thanks to cheap electronic tech.

Kaoschallenged09 Dec 2012 6:53 p.m. PST

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Artraccoon09 Dec 2012 6:55 p.m. PST

Bongolesia probably has technical experts rushing to Syria to take notes.

Personal logo Editor in Chief Bill The Editor of TMP Fezian09 Dec 2012 6:57 p.m. PST

I doubt those cameras are going to last long in a firefight…

Airborne Engineer09 Dec 2012 7:17 p.m. PST

Have you ever read about or seen Arab conscript marksmanship skills? I suspect those cameras will last a long time, well they would if they did any maintenance on them.

Mardaddy09 Dec 2012 8:34 p.m. PST

Inspired by the badonkadonk: link

SECURITY MINISTER CRITTER09 Dec 2012 8:59 p.m. PST

Well!

Mako1109 Dec 2012 11:10 p.m. PST

I have to give it to them. That is pretty ingenious, even if it is a bit too high, in terms of overall profile.

I think I'd want mine made on a lower, sports coupe model.

I'd also add a triple battery of RPG's to the top, fire either electrically, if possible, or via a some nice, strong wire, if they must use the traditional trigger mechanism.

Finally, I'd want a little hatch on top, or some smoke charge throwers mounted somewhere on it too, in order to aid a hasty escape.

Mako1109 Dec 2012 11:15 p.m. PST

What I'm really expecting to see, is the kid's toy I saw in the store tonight, that is motorized, and bills itself as a powered cross between a skateboard, and a motorcycle.

That thing was cool, but is far too hazardous to use on the road, by children. Drivers would never see you, until it was too late.

Might be the perfect thing for fast infiltration and egress, if the motor can be suped up, and it can carry a well armed adult.

The rider lays down on it, face forward, just inches off the ground. Reminds me of those powered scooters kids ride in Southern Cal, but without the tall handle bar (it's located just above the ground, in the front).

Not sure how you could mount a weapon on it, but perhaps a small rear mount, over the rider/driver, who would lay underneath the automatic weapon.

Empty brass casings dropping from above might be a problem for the operator, unless he had some thermal protection, but looked like a fun, if suicidal ride to me, so perfect for the region.

Personal logo Wolfshanza Supporting Member of TMP09 Dec 2012 11:49 p.m. PST

The cameras might last IF the conscripts were shooting at THEM. What they'll get is the old auto waterhose and no cameras ! evil grin

Barin110 Dec 2012 3:28 a.m. PST

Mad Max style…but I guess this model can be easily stopped by a pile of stone rubble, or SS rope across the street…

Klebert L Hall10 Dec 2012 5:54 a.m. PST

Well, that's a wasted month.
Doesn't look like it's even resistant to HMG fire. They should have just made the whole thing R/C, then it might have been useful.
-Kle.

Unrepentant Werewolf at work10 Dec 2012 6:50 a.m. PST

"We're doomed sir, the enemy have rocks and pointy sticks!"

Patrick R10 Dec 2012 7:13 a.m. PST

"The vehicle, however, can not withstand a rocket-propelled grenade or tank fire."

But it is armoured with one inch plating !!!! Surely a rocket-perpetuated bomb will just bounce off. All that steel, must be tougher than a tank !

kreoseus210 Dec 2012 7:26 a.m. PST

The greatest warmachine ever produced by the Albanian state washing machine company.

I can hear the A-team music in my head now….

Patrick R10 Dec 2012 8:00 a.m. PST

Here's one on a trial run

YouTube link

I guess this is what happens when people have access to playstations …

Kaoschallenged10 Dec 2012 8:50 a.m. PST

Kinda makes me wonder what happened to the Sham I wink LOL. Robert

Pictors Studio10 Dec 2012 9:06 a.m. PST

More photos:

imgur.com/a/pyqst

Uesugi Kenshin Supporting Member of TMP10 Dec 2012 10:19 a.m. PST

"SHAM-WOW!!"

Too funny!

Gaz004510 Dec 2012 11:03 a.m. PST

"The greatest warmachine ever produced by the Albanian state washing machine company.

I can hear the A-team music in my head now…"

LOL…..I would not want to be in that under 23mm cannon fire…..

jdginaz10 Dec 2012 11:48 a.m. PST

If it's armored with "light steel", which I guess is mild steel, 2.5cm won't stop .50 cal much less 23mm. Even .30 AP would penetrate it.

Milites10 Dec 2012 11:50 a.m. PST

Pure gimick. Off the shelf electronics would last how many seconds, after a good solid impact has sent shock waves through the vehicle? A good burst of 12.7mm and the crew will be seeing four blank screens, that's if the boiler plate does not spall.

Mako1110 Dec 2012 1:54 p.m. PST

Surely they'd be smart enough to insulate the electronics with styrofoam packing peanuts…..

Kaoschallenged10 Dec 2012 3:05 p.m. PST

Love the Video. I think the one the built during the Warsaw Uprising looks better grin. Robert

Altius10 Dec 2012 5:29 p.m. PST

What if it's never meant to face an RPG or tank? Which, you'll have to admit, is a pretty idiotic thought.

I can see an obvious use for it. They have a lot of problems with snipers in urban areas. One sniper can position himself in such a way that anyone stepping foot in the street is dead. You could roll something like this into the street and kill or suppress the sniper, or provide covering fire for a team to clear the building. The vehicle wouldn't necessarily have to get very close, either.

Kaoschallenged10 Dec 2012 6:44 p.m. PST

Will probably rust away faster LOL. Robert

Manflesh11 Dec 2012 6:19 a.m. PST

Wow, the Syrian version of Robot Wars is very competitive.

Leigh

boy wundyr x11 Dec 2012 8:59 a.m. PST

I sense a rusty metal box gap, that only 10 years of research and $30 USD billion dollars can fix.

I bet the Sham III really kicks ass though.

Artraccoon11 Dec 2012 2:37 p.m. PST

They could rig up a chain link fence around the vehicle as an RPG defense.

Maxshadow12 Dec 2012 3:57 a.m. PST

I like the addition of anti wheel lock armour.
Nice work fellas!

Kaoschallenged12 Dec 2012 9:31 p.m. PST

Here ya go. This might help wink Robert

picture

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Mako1112 Dec 2012 9:50 p.m. PST

Wow, talk about trying to make it easy for the post-apocalyptic hordes to climb on board and set fire to your vehicle!

Looks like they've spared no expense to ensure one can climb on board from literally any position desired.

Kaoschallenged15 Dec 2012 3:18 p.m. PST

No kidding Mako. It may work for setting off RPGs and such. But not those determined to climb aboard for sure. Robert

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