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Personal logo Virtualscratchbuilder Supporting Member of TMP Fezian01 Dec 2012 8:35 a.m. PST

So…. There I was waiting for a good sale and GHQ has a one day 20% off on Black Friday and me says to meself "Its time". I ordered 10 Japanese and 11 American battleships and some cruisers and destroyers so that I can game my favorite scenario a big battleship clash off the Philippines circa 1036. Why this period? It is before radar and before aircraft were really appreciated as the deal breaker.

While I was (am) waiting for my order to arrive, I sez to meself "lets make it interesting… Washington treaty did not happen the way it happened and both sides have more ships". So…. befitting from the rewriting of history, I fast-scratchbuilt some additional 1/2400 forces for the Japanese:

Kaga and Tosa

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Tosa beauty shot
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Akagi and Amagi
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Akagi and a GHQ Kongo
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Kii
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Kii and Akagi showing my imagined differences
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Owari (not the second ship in the Kii class, but built later as part of an elaborate deception)
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Personal logo Florida Tory Supporting Member of TMP01 Dec 2012 8:56 a.m. PST

Those are nice looking models; now you have me looking forward to the battle report.

Rick

cfielitz Supporting Member of TMP01 Dec 2012 9:07 a.m. PST

Those are great models! I assume the scale is 1/2400. Any chance for a tutorial on making them?

Personal logo Texas Jack Supporting Member of TMP01 Dec 2012 9:15 a.m. PST

"I fast-scratchbuilt some additional 1/2400 forces for the Japanese"
I wish I could SLOW scratch build something remotely as good as this.

You know, every time I see your work, no matter the scale, I always say "wow", so why break with tradition now? Wow!
I do 1/3000, but if you ever do a tutorial on how you built your 1/2400 beauties I would love to see it.

I love the concept of your project, and the lack of a Washington Treaty really opens things up. One could argue that the USN would have finished the original design for the South Dakotas, and you could also throw in the battlecruisers that became the carriers.

I believe the IJN also had a few never-weres as well.

Personal logo Virtualscratchbuilder Supporting Member of TMP Fezian01 Dec 2012 9:35 a.m. PST

One could argue that the USN would have finished the original design for the South Dakotas, and you could also throw in the battlecruisers that became the carriers.

One could say that I ran out of scratchbuilding steam and ordered those from Viking Forge. :)

I believe the IJN also had a few never-weres as well."

That would be the last pic…. a design study from around 1932.

Thanks for the comments!

galvinm Supporting Member of TMP01 Dec 2012 9:57 a.m. PST

If you can scratchbuild like that, why buy?

Those look great.

Personal logo Virtualscratchbuilder Supporting Member of TMP Fezian01 Dec 2012 10:00 a.m. PST

If you can scratchbuild like that, why buy?

Time. Takes a lot longer to scratchbuild one than to buy and paint one.

Mapleleaf Inactive Member01 Dec 2012 11:42 a.m. PST

There is a great book that you may find interesting that could give you some more information.

The Great Pacific War: A History of the American-Japanese Campaign of 1931-1933 by Hector Bywater

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It was written in 1925 by aleading interwar period naval authority of the day theorizing about a "inevitable" war between Japan and the US

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Personal logo John the OFM Supporting Member of TMP01 Dec 2012 12:14 p.m. PST

If you are going to rewrite history, REWRITE HISTORY!

Good looking models, unblemished by any aeroplanes or anti-aircraft guns which do nothing but clutter up such smooth pretty lines.
If a battleship has to have its sleek beauty cluttered by ugly weapons, I see no point in them.

doug redshirt Supporting Member of TMP01 Dec 2012 4:21 p.m. PST

True in 1036 no aircraft and radar either. But I would expect more longships or junks though. What size gun do you think a longship could handle? Would a 40mm be too big?

CorporalTrim Inactive Member01 Dec 2012 5:21 p.m. PST

Stellar work ! Hard to believe you pulled that off at 1/2400.

Steve

Personal logo Virtualscratchbuilder Supporting Member of TMP Fezian01 Dec 2012 6:13 p.m. PST

True in 1036 no aircraft and radar either. But I would expect more longships or junks though. What size gun do you think a longship could handle? Would a 40mm be too big?

Go with the title of the thread, not the typo in the text.

OTH, I have always wondered what it would be like if Royal Sovereign and Victory each had an '88 in the prow.

Personal logo Texas Jack Supporting Member of TMP01 Dec 2012 6:22 p.m. PST

The funnel on Owari is fantastic work, what material are these ships? And really, a tutorial would be great grin

Personal logo Virtualscratchbuilder Supporting Member of TMP Fezian01 Dec 2012 6:54 p.m. PST

They are balsa with styrene and brass for details.

Personal logo Virtualscratchbuilder Supporting Member of TMP Fezian02 Dec 2012 9:20 a.m. PST

Tutorial in process.

Personal logo Texas Jack Supporting Member of TMP02 Dec 2012 12:31 p.m. PST

Wonderful!

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