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Anatoli27 Nov 2012 5:26 a.m. PST

Second half of the pictures (showing all the destruction and mayhem) as well as a discussion about the event and scenario which was fun but most certainly needs tweaking and polishing if we are going to play it again. I mainly think the answer to many problems would be more stuff in reserve and re-working the objectives to get more movement and maneuvering from both sides.

Check the blog for the second half of the Prokhorovka content:

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Matsuru Sami Kaze27 Nov 2012 7:20 a.m. PST

Only thing this game needs now is a few weenies on long campfire forks. Really nice tank "flames". Am jealous.

Disco Joe27 Nov 2012 7:31 a.m. PST

That is incredible. Thanks for sharing.

Battle Phlox27 Nov 2012 9:03 a.m. PST

Great looking minis and table.

I agree with people that think Eastern Front FoW is something of a fail. It just doesn't feel right and the Soviets seem to be overpriced. I have seen some people have success with a Mixed Tank Battalion.

Personal logo Legion 4 Supporting Member of TMP27 Nov 2012 9:50 a.m. PST

Wow !!! Very nice !! thumbs up

Rod I Robertson27 Nov 2012 10:13 a.m. PST

Anatoli:
Yup, like Alfred Tennyson's poem – riding into the valley of death! Should have been Turks and Russians vs Brits. Everybody all lined up like that. It looks like a slaughter-fest. Visually very impressive none-the-less! Well done! Hope you enjoyed the game and that no one was overly traumatized. PTSD all around!
Rod Robertson

(Stolen Name)27 Nov 2012 1:53 p.m. PST

Anatoli have you read?
AN OPERATIONAL LEVEL ANALYSIS OF SOVIET ARMORED
FORMATIONS IN THE DELIBERATE DEFENSE IN THE BATTLE
OF KURSK, 1943 by CHARLES L. CROW

Here is an extract you may find interesting:

The terrain rises gradually to the north, favoring the defender. The roads throughout the salient were typical unimproved Russian tracks which quickly became quagmires following heavy rains. Dense corn fields impeded observation and direct fire.

Numerous streams throughout the bulge, particularly in the south, stymied movement of armored units. Swampy terrain to the south was prevalent along stream beds and played an important part in the movement of German armored reserves. Large ridges throughout the salient facilitated the movement of massed armored formations, despite the limitations of the adjacent low areas. Although not ideal tank terrain, it was adequate for both attacker and defender.

July in Russia is "hot and sultry" and heat took its toll on assault formations. Although the rainfall is not heavy in the summer, sudden cloudbursts adversely affected the movements of mechanized units. Until the rain settled the dust, large clouds surrounded armor columns, making undetected moves difficult.

The Red Amy was a master in the use of cover, concealment and camouflage. Superb use of deception and camouflage techniques enabled the Soviets to surprise the Germans throughout the battle by making instinctive use of the terrain to such an extent that detection of positions was impossible until the Russians opened fire. 32 Even in desolate plateau areas, the Soviets exercised superior use of 1imited cover and concealment.

Anatoli27 Nov 2012 2:23 p.m. PST

@Truscott Trotter, not read that one – I know Peter who arranged the game had a historical book he used for reference – I'll pass it along to him as he is a fan of Eastern Front.

Thanks for the tip :-)

(Stolen Name)27 Nov 2012 3:40 p.m. PST

Have got full 141 page pdf if you want a copy?

Anatoli27 Nov 2012 5:10 p.m. PST

@TT

If you can email it to me it would be great :-)

(Stolen Name)02 Dec 2012 5:56 p.m. PST

Sent along with some other pdf's that might be of interest for Kursk

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