"GW Wall of Martyrs - Open the Box" Topic

I received the HUGE box today. It is really impressive. The good point is that the trenches and emplacements are already built (with some details to glue). Only the Bunker needs an assembly.

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The mini is a Chaos Cultist on a 25mm round base.

Olivier

You can tell GW made it by the abundance of skulls.

Look quite good also the plates with the skulls on are separate so you don't have to put them on, also looks as if you can do separate trenches or a larger complex of trenches the big question is how much?

Our LGS is trying to get one for me to do up for them, but has found them consistently out of stock.

You can tell GW made it by the abundance of skulls.

Perhaps that is how the wall gots its name – they used the skulls of the martyrs to decorate it.

'Wall of Martyrs'…hardly an inspiring title for the defenders…

Unless you view it as the other side becoming martyrs at your wall.

I don't think this will be a GW product that I'll be buying. It looks nice but I have the OG WWI trench set from a few years back which looks nicer.

Thanks for posting the unboxing though. I was wondering what it looked like in the bare plastic.

It seems like it would be a good basis for a trench set of any kind if you covered the metal parts up with some putty or something.

I haven't bought a lot of the GW scenery stuff – but it does always look good, and pretty decent value for money as well (usually) considering how packed the boxes are.

looks nice.

Looks nice and I do see where some of the decorative skulls are an option, but there are still what appear to be hundreds of sculls molded onto the bulwarks and the surrounding dirt mounds.

I love me some grimdark, but it's a bit over the top for me. I'm sure it's a really well done kit though. I've been consistently impresed with the construction aspects of GW scenery.

"The Wall of Martyrs" … please !?! The GW crew needs to pass the Prozac and Zoloft around more often. I get the "In-the-grim-dark-future-there-is-only-total-war" thing … but like many things GW does, its a bit over-the-top for me … … I'm just say'n …

Perhaps that is how the wall gots its name – they used the skulls of the martyrs to decorate it.

Pretty much what it says on the store website. It's not just the skulls though. It's the whole skeleton and some of the left over kit too.

What's the point of defensive trenches that you can't stand up without your head showing over the top? I know this is a gaming set rather than an accurate representation, but it looks like the planners spent more time planning the large eagles than to think about any sort of protection for the troops in the trench.

I'm not one to defend GW, but I think the point of the height of the trenches is to accommodate the rules of 40k (and most wargames) where a certain portion of concealment is necessary to improve your unit's survivability (saving throw, enemy to-hit modifier, etc, depending on rules). This rule usually exists alongside rules dictating but in order to shoot out (or in) line of sight must be able to be drawn between enemies.

A trench high enough to not be seen over would interfere with these game mechanics and one with two levels would increase the cost substantially.

Now, if you're making an argument about real-world realism, then I think you're in the wrong topic, this is about a 40k product after all.

Well knowing that there are millions of people now in the world that consider martyrdom to be greatest honor, i could reasonably deduct that most of 40K superstitious soldiers could welcome this name with pride and high expectations :P

But I am not to convicted about bodies of the fallen that litter the walls..

There were a lot of forgotten decaying bodies in no mans land in WW I, but not on the walls of the trenches..

As to height argument.. well its terrain that is added on top of the battlefield..Table top rings a bell ? :>
To make realistic trenches you have to be able to built them deep into base..
Its perfectly doable in deep gaming table, but i wouldn't want to see my wife face when she would see me cutting deep parts of our living room table to accommodate trenches..

"You can tell GW made it by the abundance of skulls."

Yeah well in 40K you can go buy yourself a skull at Radio Shack and it will fly around and make you coffee and kill heretics for you. The skull is to 40K as a towel is to the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy.

palaeomrus: Nice one.