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cooey2ph13 Nov 2012 5:54 a.m. PST

I picked up a bag of these old plastic tanks. Each is around 60cm in length -- hull only and excluding the gun. They're a bit bigger than my 1/144 Merkavas. I've always thought they were AMX-30s but a friend is insisting they're T-54s. Help in identifying these would be much appreciated. Thanks in advance!

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and here's the pic as well

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Figurspelaren13 Nov 2012 5:57 a.m. PST

Looks like a Leopard 1 chassi but the turret looks wrong.

cloudcaptain13 Nov 2012 6:00 a.m. PST

Looks like an AMX-30 and T-54 lovechild. Close to both but the turret shape and position are the main issues. I am leaning more to the AMX-30 side.

nickinsomerset13 Nov 2012 6:01 a.m. PST

A Leopard One, looks like the turret has been fixed too far forwards and covers the right hand side drivers hatch,

Tally Ho!

Rudi the german13 Nov 2012 6:18 a.m. PST

Hi,

de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leopard_1

It is for sure a Leopart 1. 0 or so calles "serie 0".
The turret is to far in the front and the this tank got never camo.

It is still used by the brasilian army….
Greetings

Rrobbyrobot13 Nov 2012 6:18 a.m. PST

Looks like a Leopard 1 to Me.

Rudi the german13 Nov 2012 6:24 a.m. PST

100 procent… It is from 1963 but the type of camo looks like US from the early eighties… That makes it difficult.

Greetings?

PS: is the tank 60mm or cm????

Lobsterback13 Nov 2012 6:47 a.m. PST

LEO 1 with turret too far forward…..a give away is the searchlight storage bin on the back of the turret.

cooey2ph13 Nov 2012 6:55 a.m. PST

@rudi the german sorry bout that, its in mm :)

thanks for the help! I'm not up to converting these at present but it seems they'll have to be stripped of paint and the turrets moved back to properly depict a leopard 1. if i remember correctly, i got these (around forty to fifty pieces) for a dollar (us). Not bad imho. could be custom fodder. thanks again!

shaun from s and s models13 Nov 2012 8:21 a.m. PST

it looks like a bastardised leo 1 to me.
but the turret is too far forwars and it should have 7 wheels, maybe the prototype?

7th Va Cavalry13 Nov 2012 9:47 a.m. PST

Again with the Leopard I

Maddaz11113 Nov 2012 11:47 a.m. PST

Actually I personally think it is a toy tank!

My reasons for this is that nothing screams leopard 1 at me because the wheels are wrong, some details might pass muster.

I once found a toy tank that my friend had been using as a t34 85mm turret version made from three different toys cast in three different plastics at two different scales. the remaining bits made a panzer iv, and a weird thing with a sherman hull, wheel assembly (?) and a centurion turret.

the fact that all the pieces were sort of interchangeable suggested to me that these hong kong toys were made in factories where the parts were cast in random colours on different days and any combo of bits could be put together to make a tank!

we put a cammo net made from dyed stocking and covered with flocking material over tanks, and then it did not really matter what they were, and at skirmish level with one or two tanks a side it meant they could be panthers one week and tigers the next! I have some resin markers in 1/300 that are cammo tanks, on spearhead bases, and for seen not id vehicles they are all thats on the tables.

Rudi the german13 Nov 2012 2:08 p.m. PST

Hi,

i was run over by a leo 1 two times in close combat anti tank training course in stetten on the panzer training street. And these seconds are burned in my menory. :)

This is a leo 1 and no cut and paste/ no copyright toy.

Ventilartor ripps at the back end of the hull and on top. To target by your grenadre or handflamer. Two entrances on top of the turred to put a grenade in. Small mirror window in the front to be taken out by small arms fire before comending a cloce combat assault on it.

:))))))

Maxshadow13 Nov 2012 4:14 p.m. PST

i was run over by a leo 1 two times in close combat anti tank training course in stetten

Rudi I guess you would have started to have gotten used to it by the second time?
We had the leopards here too. Very nice tanks.

Artraccoon13 Nov 2012 7:53 p.m. PST

Yep it's a Leopard 1, just the turret has been made too big and too forward. It has the "eyes" on the turret that the Leo 1 had.

Jcfrog14 Nov 2012 10:21 a.m. PST

Should be in fantasy games.

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