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Garde de Paris Supporting Member of TMP11 Nov 2012 2:26 p.m. PST

Does anyone have information – or illustrations – of the colours carried by the Duchy of Brunswick troops in the Seven Years War? Idea of size would also be appreciated.

GdeP

Paul Y11 Nov 2012 3:38 p.m. PST

Some useful information here: link
Cheers
Paul

Personal logo timurilank Supporting Member of TMP11 Nov 2012 3:40 p.m. PST

I would have thought Kronoskaf.com had what you needed.

link

Cheers,

spontoon11 Nov 2012 3:54 p.m. PST

The Kronoskaf flags are based upon the speculation that they were similar to the handsome AWI Flags. Pengel and Hurt seem to indicate that they were a plain white flag with the elector's initials/cypher in gold on them.

Garde de Paris Supporting Member of TMP11 Nov 2012 4:01 p.m. PST

I had been led to believe that the Kronoskaf flags were conjectural, and may have been for post-7YW period.

The Pengel & Hurt information mentioned by Spontoon sounds lie data I found in William Biles booklets of the 1980's. I recall the Dukal design on one side, running horse on the other, but I have never seen any illustrations.

GdeP

Frederick Supporting Member of TMP11 Nov 2012 5:14 p.m. PST

I went thru the library and discovered what appears to be the sad truth that, quote "no colours or pictures of them from this era have survived."

Apparently grenadiers did not carry colours but each musketeer company did.

There is speculation that the flags were of Prussian style with a red central disc with the springing white horse under a ducal crown within laurel branches. The field is believed to bear an upright wavy cross with a grenade at the centre of each side. There was a reversed crowned ducal cipher (C) within laurel branches in each corner, this motif being also on the gilt finial. The field of the Liebfahne was believed to be white with a blue cross and silver embroidery, the ordinairfahnen having the field in the regimental facing colour with a white upright cross

Hope this is helpful

Personal logo Der Alte Fritz Sponsoring Member of TMP11 Nov 2012 9:13 p.m. PST

See Vaubaner Graphics flags

crogge175712 Nov 2012 5:54 a.m. PST

@GdeP,

if you drop me your e-mail I can send you some images.
As per a more recent article by Ortenburg, dated 2009 in the German periodical Zeitschrift für Heereskunde, it is stated that the infantry received new flags in 1754 based on the Prussian design, but fails to support that with an illustration. Instead, the 1776 flags are illustrated assuming they were of similar design. May well hold true. The earlier pre 1754 pattern, however, seems to be better documented. Several original tables illustrating the placement of each rank within the bataillon can be found in the Wolfenbüttel archives, it seems. I purchased a reprint at Berliner Zinnfiguren illustrating the 1750 Leibregiment. It comes with two neatly drawn flags. Several more of other regiments and earlier 1735 period are found in the Ortenburg paper.

Cheers,
Christian

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