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DesertScrb10 Nov 2012 7:45 p.m. PST

Last night at Millennium Con, I got to check out some of the components for the new version of the sci-fi tank game OGRE:

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Cool, huh? More pics at Super Galactic Dreadnought: link

Angel Barracks Inactive Member11 Nov 2012 4:15 a.m. PST

I thought it was having plastic figures now he got bonkers money from the kickstarter?

JRacel Inactive Member11 Nov 2012 6:52 a.m. PST

No Angel Barracks, SJG decided to stay with the puzzle piece looking Ogres and structures. I pulled out of the KS when it was clear SJG was sticking with that instead of plastic. Using all chipboard makes the game far too heavy and the pieces look poor. Plastic would have been expensive up front, but FAR cheaper int he long run and a lot lighter for shipping. Instead SJG has to deal with printing costs, die cutting and the never ending number of quality control issues associated. Printing never seems to get cheaper either. I just think it was a very poor decision, but since I pulled out, not something I am loosing sleep over.

Jeff

Parzival11 Nov 2012 9:54 a.m. PST

Still and all, it's a fun game. I still have my old copy, as well as the Ogre/GEV Deluxe boxed miniatures set and a few extra forces. If someone doesn't have the game, getting this isn't a bad choice. As for me, I'm passing, too. Plastic minis might have changed my mind, but, alas, that's not what they chose to do.

Matakishi Inactive Member11 Nov 2012 11:53 a.m. PST

Well, that's incredibly underwhelming.

RazorMind11 Nov 2012 1:28 p.m. PST

I played for the first time, it was a very meh game for me. I have no interest in it now at all.

Dave Crowell11 Nov 2012 4:59 p.m. PST

Ogre continues to be my vote for the best $2.95 USD I ever spent on a wargame.

According to a recent Kickstarter update plastic minis are in the works. Hopefully SJG will bring the OOP minis back as well.

DesertScrb11 Nov 2012 6:14 p.m. PST

Wow, a lot of negative waves, Moriarity! I'm happy the game's coming back, since I plan on putting my current minis to use on the new maps, with their modular terrain overlays.

According to a recent Kickstarter update plastic minis are in the works. Hopefully SJG will bring the OOP minis back as well.

Do you have a link? I was never aware of any plastic OGRE minis, just a re-launch of the metal miniatures line sometime next year.

Lucius11 Nov 2012 8:19 p.m. PST

The cold truth is that the chipboard counters look awful, and the new cardboard counters lack the iconic charm of the original silhouettes.

Still a great game, but this is an an aesthetic disaster by 21st Century game production standards.

TurnStyle11 Nov 2012 9:44 p.m. PST

Never played it, but it sure has nothing in the pictures that would grab my attention. If I walked past this game at a convention, I'd do just that – walk past with barely a glance.

That being said, there are plenty of excellent games which are not appealing to the eye.

Personal logo IronMike Supporting Member of TMP11 Nov 2012 10:40 p.m. PST

Looking at the final product I'm ever-so-glad that I didn't drop cash on this. In an age where a triple digit price tag From Fantasy Flight Games can get you rules, miniature scenery and enough 28mm miniatures (including vehicles) for two players to get started, dropping a Benjamin on what is essentially a box of cardboard just doesn't seem worth it.

Don't get me wrong, I adore OGRE, and when the oft-rumored new edition of the miniature rules comes out I'll be the first in line…But this boxed version was a nostalgia trip for Uncle Stevie that he managed to talk a few thousand people into paying for.

infojunky11 Nov 2012 11:19 p.m. PST

1st Guys this is OGRE, One of Steve 1st babies, so he is going to do it with what he knows best, and that is printed product. And this edition is for the Fans, and as I understand it is strictly a limited edition, or was going to be.

INHO, the best version of the game was made by a gent who resized the the orignal game chits to 1inch and mounted them on wood tiles, playing with that set made OGRE into the demented Dominoes game that it truly is. Ogre is best played with a chess clock where time is a important aspect of victory.

Most of whinging I am hearing here is more about change than the actual merits of the game and it's production values, but I will judge the product when it shows up in my mates hands (No, I didn't order it, I prefer playing with miniatures, and playing with the current rules for such, and will pick up the new edition when they become available)

And lastly while this the SF Discussion board is this the place to be whining about a board game? As this is The Miniatures Page.

Sergeant Paper11 Nov 2012 11:32 p.m. PST

You can find useful substitutes on Shapeways, if you'd rather have 3D pieces.

Angel Barracks Inactive Member12 Nov 2012 2:46 a.m. PST

And lastly while this the SF Discussion board is this the place to be whining about a board game? As this is The Miniatures Page.

Are those card models in the game full size then, or miniature?

Don't get me wrong, I don't like it when people whine about things I like either, especially if they are my own products.
I wouldn't question their right to 'whine' though, I would just go away and mumble things under my breath.


:P

Paint it Pink12 Nov 2012 9:14 a.m. PST

Let's be honest and remember that most gamers don't paint their miniatures. Having pre-coloured, easy to assemble 3D counters is a winner.

Me? I paint and have miniatures. So it's all about the maps for me. That and having the game back in print.

Total win.

Lion in the Stars12 Nov 2012 12:43 p.m. PST

I have a bunch of the Ogre minis from the ~2000 re-print (VHS boxes).

I don't *mind* the cardboard cutouts, and the kickstarter raised enough money to convince Evil Stevie to resurrect the OGRE Minis as a full-time thing.

badger2212 Nov 2012 9:02 p.m. PST

I dont think the plastic minis where ever supposed to be in the box. What the stretch goal was that he would make them sometime in the future. Looking at the size of the box i dont think you could fit very many of them in the box as is. If he manages to make a line of cheap plastic minis for it next year I will be very happy.

While I wish it was coming out this month as has been said, late is a few months, sucking is forever. I will be happy as long as it is out in January or february. Before easter in any event.

owen

DesertScrb12 Nov 2012 9:11 p.m. PST

As far as I know, they aren't going to produce plastic minis; they're going to re-release the metal castings.

Knockman14 Nov 2012 4:25 p.m. PST

Plastic minis were never an option, why would you go to the extra cost of injection moulding rigs, when you already have a metal miniatures range awaiting a new caster?

The KS allowed for the 'designer deluxe edition' to come out, but off the back of that the fans have got renewed interest in the company getting the metal miniatures back into production, and Ogre Miniatures will be revamped and re-released too.

Kelroy was here15 Nov 2012 9:48 p.m. PST

And he's going to do Car Wars too. Win!

AndrewGPaul Inactive Member16 Nov 2012 3:06 a.m. PST

Is Ogre ever going to sell in the sort of numbers to justify plastic miniatures? I don't think it has that sort of market awareness to do so.

This edition is a one-off run (albeit quite a large run) as I understand it. If it generates enough interest, I could see a version with a cheap plastic Ogre – the same sort of thing as the minis in Descent, Battlestar Galactica, etc.

billthecat19 Nov 2012 10:49 a.m. PST

FAIL

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