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Uesugi Kenshin Supporting Member of TMP26 Oct 2012 4:15 p.m. PST

Does anyone know of a map available that shows respective Warpac & Nato Divisional deployments circa 1987-89?

Thanks.

Uesugi Kenshin Supporting Member of TMP26 Oct 2012 4:27 p.m. PST

Found this not-too bad map via Google. No specific year but states "80s":
link

Personal logo A sea that raged no more Supporting Member of TMP27 Oct 2012 2:27 a.m. PST

Thanks. That's worth having.

Are the maps found in Hackett's "World War III" of any use?


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Airborne Engineer Inactive Member28 Oct 2012 4:11 a.m. PST

There was a great board game called NATO The Next War in Europe (iirc) that covered the German front at brigade level. It seemed to have a good OOB and several scenarios from a no warning attack to full ore attack build ups.

Uesugi Kenshin Supporting Member of TMP29 Oct 2012 4:12 p.m. PST

"NATO The Next War in Europe"

Still own it! Great game. Must have re-played it 10 times. It does in fact have a great map.

Risaldar Singh25 Jan 2013 1:18 p.m. PST

GDW's Third World War series were first class. I can't remember anything about the deployement though I think NATO's was pretty much fixed while the WarPact was a little looser…

zaevor2000 Inactive Member20 Oct 2014 7:59 p.m. PST

One option that several groups have used has been to use the SPI Central Front Series for movement of WP regiments and NATO battalions, and then fight out the interesting battles with minis. This is great for giving context to the battles fought out with minis since they will have an effect on the campaign…

The scale of the CFS series is 4km per hex which just happens to be a narrow attack frontage of a WarPac regiment or a NATO battalion in defense.

Another great aspect of this approach is that each game covered a different sector of the front.

1) Fifth Corps- covered the US/German area around Fulda and Kassel (IIRC)

2) Hof Gap- covered to the East of 5th corps (the US VII corps sector)

3) BAOR- covered the main British sector from the Hartz mountains to Hannover.

4) North German Plain- covered the Hamburg area and Bremerhaven (which was the main reinforcement port).

The games have the initial dispositions which enable you to fight the initial covering force battles up near the border and then for the 1st several days of fighting with the forces in the area.

Just a recommendation on what others have done…

Frank

josta59 Inactive Member14 Jul 2015 3:11 p.m. PST

What a great idea. I have all those games. Thanks for sharing.

zaevor2000 Inactive Member11 Nov 2015 6:10 p.m. PST

You're welcome.

To this day still the best way to generate interesting scenarios.

Also, with the megagame going on in the background, there will obviously be some unbalanced battles, but they will be more acceptable, since you are freed from the constraints of having to create a perfectly balanced scenario.

This can have some truly strange matchups that will be MUCH more interesting than the typical Soviet Motor Rifle Regiment vs the typical NATO battalion. The cookie cutter, plain vanilla matchups get stale after awhile ;)

Also makes fights for river crossings and vital road junctions much more desperate for the defenders since they are trying to keep the door open for others and can't just bug out to save their own skins…

CFS is a great scenario generation system IMHO and very glad to share. Great to fight a battle and be able to see where it fits in the overall scheme of things!

Frank

Kiwi Red One13 Nov 2015 3:06 a.m. PST

We played a three day campaign based on SPI's Fifth Corps game a few years ago now…..it was very successful.

Write up is here:

link

We never did finish the whole thing in the end.

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