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hoosierclyde05 Oct 2012 8:33 a.m. PST

I'm looking for a picture of a Vickers VI in caunter- preferably the blue, not green, one. I found an picture of one a while ago, but I can't find it anymore. Can anyone help me out?

Personal logo John the OFM Supporting Member of TMP05 Oct 2012 8:37 a.m. PST

I thought that blue was inaccurate and wrong, but what do I know? I'm not Allen.

Personal logo John the OFM Supporting Member of TMP05 Oct 2012 8:42 a.m. PST

There IS a recipe that involves mixing various Tamiya colors, but I go with a standard "sand" base, with Tammiya Sky and German Gray as the other colors.
Since it was used in the intense climate of North Africa, it fades quickly, so I then lightly drybrush the whole mess with more sand.

Google "Caunter Camouflage" and then go to Images.

kyotebluer than blue Supporting Member of TMP05 Oct 2012 9:04 a.m. PST

More or less…

Personal logo Silurian Supporting Member of TMP05 Oct 2012 9:34 a.m. PST

IIRC, one of the greys fades to have a bluish tinge, but there's no real blue.
Shame, blue caunters certainly look attractive!

Some Chicken05 Oct 2012 9:48 a.m. PST

Slate, silver grey and Portland stone. No blue.

hoosierclyde05 Oct 2012 10:18 a.m. PST

I'm sure I've seen pictures of blue caunter. I remember seeing a Matilda at Bovington with blue caunter.

Bill Armintrout05 Oct 2012 1:05 p.m. PST

If anyones after the paints try here. link
LES

optional field05 Oct 2012 1:41 p.m. PST

Hossierclyde,
Is this it?

picture

It looks blue to me, but there are lots of reasons it may not be what it appears.
1) The colors as they appear on your screen may vary from the original vehicle in the photograph.
2) It may have been painted after the war and not reflect what was actually done in the field.
3) The actual colors may have faded in the field, so the paint may not have been blue when applied, but became blue through fading.

Black Bull Inactive Member05 Oct 2012 2:25 p.m. PST

It was painted in the late 80's and is inaccurate, no blue.

Personal logo Sparker Supporting Member of TMP05 Oct 2012 2:54 p.m. PST

I have spent many happy hours loafing around 'Golden Miller' and that blue was actually blue, not an effect of the screen or film. Still is for all I know!

On high days and holidays some old boys of the 8th Army used to meet up around it and give lectures and answer questions etc. None of them ever said the scheme was inaccurate, but them again maybe they were just too damn polite, bless 'em all….

Etranger05 Oct 2012 5:47 p.m. PST

The blue in a Caunter scheme is wrong. Mike Starmer & Dick Taylor have both covered the topic extensively.

Here's one in Caunter for you

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Killer Woobie05 Oct 2012 8:31 p.m. PST

Yes, the blue is wrong. But you have to give the lads at Bovington credit. They managed to follow the Airfix kit instructions to the letter.


Here are some links to colour profiles of the Mk.VI light in caunter from the Armoured Acorn site.

PDF link

PDF link

PDF link

Hope this helps

cheers

Hornswoggler05 Oct 2012 9:05 p.m. PST

KW that's funny!

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Killer Woobie05 Oct 2012 10:01 p.m. PST

Hah!

Newfangled colour instructions. Mine were from the sixties and there weren't no green in it anywhere!

cheers

Etranger07 Oct 2012 6:40 p.m. PST

I should have remembered that they used Airfix paints at Bovvy. M25 is indeed light blue …

Here's the code for those Airfix colours above link

Jemima Fawr07 Oct 2012 10:06 p.m. PST

Remember that most of the exhibits at Bovington were put back together and painted by various disparate groups of restorers over many years, without any central oversight by the museum itself in terms of colour-scheme accuracy. Accuracy in terms of colours and markings therefore varies from the excellent to the dire. They are steadily repainting exhibits to make them more accurate.

corvettek225 Inactive Member08 Oct 2012 7:51 a.m. PST

This lack of accuracy runs deep in museums throughout the world. Look at the travesty that is Aberdeen Proving Grounds Museum in Maryland, USA. For decades the vehicles were all painted with some sort of whitewash. The Imperial War Museum has a Beautiful Mark V Male tank painted green when it should be khaki-brown. And the list goes on and on.

spontoon08 Oct 2012 3:58 p.m. PST

I like the Caunter Scheme portrayed in the Osprey book on the M3 Stuart.

Marc the plastics fan09 Oct 2012 5:31 a.m. PST

I like the blue though…

Lewisgunner Supporting Member of TMP10 Oct 2012 3:24 a.m. PST

Personally I'd do the blue. The tank (mark VI Light) is useless so it might as well be decorative.
Roy

Some Chicken10 Oct 2012 9:19 a.m. PST

The tank (mark VI Light) is useless so it might as well be decorative.

Actually mine look very pretty in the slate, silver grey and portland stone hues I mentioned, although I agree they are next to useless on the table. And the "correct" scheme (i.e. non -blue, per Mike Starmer) looks even better on Matildas, a fact whoever took offence at my previous post will remain totally unaware of.

Etranger10 Oct 2012 11:14 p.m. PST

And the "correct" scheme …. a fact whoever took offence at my previous post will remain totally unaware of.

Good grief! Some people just can't handle the truth…. grin

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