138SquadronRAF | 01 Oct 2012 3:36 p.m. PST |
I found out that there is a correct for the sponge for cleaning out a cannon. According to Websters Diction it is a Merkin. link This, naturally, should not be confused with my normal usage,which I suppose should be rendered as 'Merkin. |
TKindred  | 01 Oct 2012 4:33 p.m. PST |
Actually, in the 1862 US Ordnance Manual it is, in fact, referred to as a sponge. It also comes with a sponge cover. |
138SquadronRAF | 01 Oct 2012 4:56 p.m. PST |
Funnily enough I've always called it a spounge. I kind of like the idea that it's a merkin. |
Dave Crowell | 01 Oct 2012 6:54 p.m. PST |
The gun crew I served on always just called it a sponge. Interesting to learn that it has a proper name. |
45thdiv | 01 Oct 2012 7:29 p.m. PST |
And I have never heard the third definition of that word. |
forwardmarchstudios | 01 Oct 2012 7:49 p.m. PST |
A merkin is also the slang for a guy who marries a lesbian to make the appearance of her being straight. Analogous to a "beard," which is a woman who marries a gay man for the same purpose. Probably done in concert a lot of times. Merkins were also used back in the day when prostitutes would shave their nether regions for the treatment of various STDs, but wanted to disguise this. Generally the term merkin is forgetten today outside of liberal art school campuses
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Seroga | 01 Oct 2012 8:44 p.m. PST |
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GROSSMAN | 01 Oct 2012 8:54 p.m. PST |
Which is actually sheep skin (with the wool ) on them. I "sponged" at the Yorktown anniversary cool experience. |
andygamer | 01 Oct 2012 9:13 p.m. PST |
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Major William Martin RM | 01 Oct 2012 9:41 p.m. PST |
I think they were originally going to call it a "Q-Tip", but then there was this whole trademark and IP infringement issue
Bill Sir William the Aged |
HammerHead | 01 Oct 2012 11:37 p.m. PST |
you learn something every day |
Edwulf | 01 Oct 2012 11:54 p.m. PST |
I thought it was just called a sponge. The man who used it was called the sponger right. |
Pedrobear | 02 Oct 2012 12:08 a.m. PST |
Depends on which army. British: the sponge French: le sponge Prussian: das sponge Spanish: el sponge |
Rrobbyrobot | 02 Oct 2012 2:26 a.m. PST |
I like Sham-POW! I just woke my Son up. Now that's laughing out loud! Now let's see 'Vince' toss a cannon over his shoulder. |
Edwulf | 02 Oct 2012 2:28 a.m. PST |
Have to say I thought a merkin was a ladies wig for "down there" |
WeeWars | 02 Oct 2012 2:47 a.m. PST |
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Big Martin Back | 02 Oct 2012 4:19 a.m. PST |
Always seen it as a sponge – I'd never come across that definition of merkin before. Was always a pubic wig to me – not that I've ever come across one!! |
La Fleche | 02 Oct 2012 5:06 a.m. PST |
Have to say I thought a merkin was a ladies wig for "down there" Indeed. Next we'll find thst the standard volume of a spongers's bucket was 40.9148269 litres, from which arose the phrase, now commonplace amongst genital wig fetishists, "firkin the merkin". |
Rhino Co | 02 Oct 2012 6:33 a.m. PST |
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Ed Mohrmann | 02 Oct 2012 9:32 a.m. PST |
Edwulf's correct. My ODEL has 'merkin' as (1st definition) 'pubic wig'. Didn't see 'artillery sponge' or anything like it listed in the definitions, but might have missed it. |
Der Alte Fritz  | 02 Oct 2012 2:02 p.m. PST |
It must be April first today. |
14Bore | 02 Oct 2012 3:26 p.m. PST |
And here I thought the corret term was sponge-rammer |
Pirate1900 | 02 Oct 2012 8:16 p.m. PST |
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Paint Pig | 02 Oct 2012 10:22 p.m. PST |
Merkin as a pubic wig I know, but I didn't think it was gender specific  Is the artillery version of a merkin specific as to which sex operates it?  regards dave |
Gary Flack | 04 Oct 2012 5:16 a.m. PST |
The Oxford English Dictionary does not mention it as being connected to artillery Perhaps Websters is mistaken? |
French Wargame Holidays | 05 Oct 2012 2:02 p.m. PST |
a maulkin is a long handled bakers oven mop for cleaning out the ovens
close but not the biscuit |
McLaddie | 05 Oct 2012 8:32 p.m. PST |
There was a lot of slang among military men [and navy], often ribald, so they may have called the sponge a lot of things
For instance: Because there were so many men with common names in the Army, a company might have a dozen Smiths, Whites, Rhodes, Black etc. So the company would give them names, Dusty Rhodes, Rough Rhodes, or Black Smith, Copper Smith, or Boot Black, or the most obscene one, Knocker White. Or what were Bobtails, Cool Ladies, a Thomas, A flute blanket, French Letters, Dog's Body, Flappers, etc. etc. Lots of slang for both military equipment and operations, just like today's army. |
Edwulf | 06 Oct 2012 3:50 a.m. PST |
Knocker White was a bad nickname? Was it because he was a tit? Or because he was a lad who got knocked about? Love to know what Flappers and a Cool Lady was. |
McLaddie | 06 Oct 2012 8:00 a.m. PST |
Edwulf: "Knock" was a period euphemism for sexual intercourse, so "Knocker White"
say it out loud
Flappers were new, young officers. The image was of a young duck flapping around trying to fly. Cool Ladies were the women Suttlers that followed the army in carts and wagons, selling wine, gin and such to the soldiers. They also might carry ice at times. While many suttlers sold other things, as well as wine, women suttlers often 'specialized' in liquor. As with any age, one term could be used in any number of ways, particularly in the military. For instance: Glory hole: Holding place for prisoners, the vent on a cannon or the flintlock pan flash hole. A reference to officer's quarters, as well as sexual connotations. Could be referenced as someplace unattractive in a sarcastic way or as someplace very attractive. |
Edwulf | 06 Oct 2012 8:23 p.m. PST |
Fantastic. Love hearing how common folk speak. |
Littlearmies | 06 Oct 2012 11:25 p.m. PST |
"Love hearing how common folk speak." Yes – us posh people never use slang! |
Edwulf | 07 Oct 2012 2:31 a.m. PST |
Sorry. Bad typing that should be The common folk. As in the rank and file. They didn't write as much down see. |
McLaddie | 07 Oct 2012 8:26 p.m. PST |
Well, if you are interested in Army slang of the period, one place to find it is in a popular satire of the time, written by a Peninsular veteran: The Military Adventures of Johnny Newcome 1816 You can download it from Google. "Johnny Newcome" was another name given to newbies, as opposed to today, when they're called a 'cherry' and other things
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Davout1972 | 18 Oct 2012 3:16 p.m. PST |
Can't wait for my 7 year old to hear that his favorite cartoon show is really called Merkinbob Squarepants! And to think for 20 years I shoved those things in there not knowing how ignorant I was! |