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01 Oct 2012 3:58 p.m. PST
by Editor in Chief Bill

  • Changed title from "The correct term a cannon spounge" to "The correct term for a cannon sponge"

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138SquadronRAF01 Oct 2012 3:36 p.m. PST

I found out that there is a correct for the sponge for cleaning out a cannon.

According to Websters Diction it is a Merkin.

link

This, naturally, should not be confused with my normal usage,which I suppose should be rendered as 'Merkin.

TKindred Supporting Member of TMP01 Oct 2012 4:33 p.m. PST

Actually, in the 1862 US Ordnance Manual it is, in fact, referred to as a sponge. It also comes with a sponge cover.

138SquadronRAF01 Oct 2012 4:56 p.m. PST

Funnily enough I've always called it a spounge. I kind of like the idea that it's a merkin.

Dave Crowell01 Oct 2012 6:54 p.m. PST

The gun crew I served on always just called it a sponge. Interesting to learn that it has a proper name.

45thdiv01 Oct 2012 7:29 p.m. PST

And I have never heard the third definition of that word.

forwardmarchstudios01 Oct 2012 7:49 p.m. PST

A merkin is also the slang for a guy who marries a lesbian to make the appearance of her being straight. Analogous to a "beard," which is a woman who marries a gay man for the same purpose. Probably done in concert a lot of times. Merkins were also used back in the day when prostitutes would shave their nether regions for the treatment of various STDs, but wanted to disguise this. Generally the term merkin is forgetten today outside of liberal art school campuses…

Seroga01 Oct 2012 8:44 p.m. PST

банник ?
écouvillon ?
:-)

GROSSMAN01 Oct 2012 8:54 p.m. PST

Which is actually sheep skin (with the wool ) on them. I "sponged" at the Yorktown anniversary cool experience.

andygamer01 Oct 2012 9:13 p.m. PST

A Sham-POW!®

Major William Martin RM01 Oct 2012 9:41 p.m. PST

I think they were originally going to call it a "Q-Tip", but then there was this whole trademark and IP infringement issue…

Bill
Sir William the Aged

HammerHead01 Oct 2012 11:37 p.m. PST

you learn something every day

Edwulf01 Oct 2012 11:54 p.m. PST

I thought it was just called a sponge.
The man who used it was called the sponger right.

Pedrobear02 Oct 2012 12:08 a.m. PST

Depends on which army.

British: the sponge
French: le sponge
Prussian: das sponge
Spanish: el sponge

Rrobbyrobot02 Oct 2012 2:26 a.m. PST

I like Sham-POW! I just woke my Son up. Now that's laughing out loud!
Now let's see 'Vince' toss a cannon over his shoulder.

Edwulf02 Oct 2012 2:28 a.m. PST

Have to say I thought a merkin was a ladies wig for "down there"

WeeWars02 Oct 2012 2:47 a.m. PST

I've met a few spongers.

Big Martin Back02 Oct 2012 4:19 a.m. PST

Always seen it as a sponge – I'd never come across that definition of merkin before. Was always a pubic wig to me – not that I've ever come across one!!

La Fleche02 Oct 2012 5:06 a.m. PST

Have to say I thought a merkin was a ladies wig for "down there"

Indeed.

Next we'll find thst the standard volume of a spongers's bucket was 40.9148269 litres, from which arose the phrase, now commonplace amongst genital wig fetishists, "firkin the merkin".

Rhino Co02 Oct 2012 6:33 a.m. PST

The tool is a sponge and the action is to swab.

11thpa.org/artillery.html

Ed Mohrmann02 Oct 2012 9:32 a.m. PST

Edwulf's correct. My ODEL has 'merkin' as (1st
definition) 'pubic wig'.

Didn't see 'artillery sponge' or anything like it listed
in the definitions, but might have missed it.

Personal logo Der Alte Fritz Supporting Member of TMP02 Oct 2012 2:02 p.m. PST

It must be April first today.

14Bore02 Oct 2012 3:26 p.m. PST

And here I thought the corret term was sponge-rammer

Pirate190002 Oct 2012 8:16 p.m. PST

A merkin rammer ????????

Paint Pig02 Oct 2012 10:22 p.m. PST

Merkin as a pubic wig I know, but I didn't think it was gender specific huh?

Is the artillery version of a merkin specific as to which sex operates it? grin

regards
dave

Gary Flack04 Oct 2012 5:16 a.m. PST

The Oxford English Dictionary does not mention it as being connected to artillery
Perhaps Websters is mistaken?

French Wargame Holidays05 Oct 2012 2:02 p.m. PST

a maulkin is a long handled bakers oven mop for cleaning out the ovens…………close but not the biscuit

McLaddie05 Oct 2012 8:32 p.m. PST

There was a lot of slang among military men [and navy], often ribald, so they may have called the sponge a lot of things…

For instance:
Because there were so many men with common names in the Army, a company might have a dozen Smiths, Whites, Rhodes, Black etc. So the company would give them names, Dusty Rhodes, Rough Rhodes, or Black Smith, Copper Smith, or Boot Black, or the most obscene one, Knocker White.

Or what were Bobtails, Cool Ladies, a Thomas, A flute blanket, French Letters, Dog's Body, Flappers, etc. etc.

Lots of slang for both military equipment and operations, just like today's army.

Edwulf06 Oct 2012 3:50 a.m. PST

Knocker White was a bad nickname?

Was it because he was a tit?
Or because he was a lad who got knocked about?

Love to know what Flappers and a Cool Lady was.

McLaddie06 Oct 2012 8:00 a.m. PST

Edwulf:

"Knock" was a period euphemism for sexual intercourse, so "Knocker White"… say it out loud…

Flappers were new, young officers. The image was of a young duck flapping around trying to fly.

Cool Ladies were the women Suttlers that followed the army in carts and wagons, selling wine, gin and such to the soldiers. They also might carry ice at times. While many suttlers sold other things, as well as wine, women suttlers often 'specialized' in liquor.

As with any age, one term could be used in any number of ways, particularly in the military. For instance:

Glory hole:
Holding place for prisoners, the vent on a cannon or the flintlock pan flash hole. A reference to officer's quarters, as well as sexual connotations. Could be referenced as someplace unattractive in a sarcastic way or as someplace very attractive.

Edwulf06 Oct 2012 8:23 p.m. PST

Fantastic.

Love hearing how common folk speak.

Littlearmies06 Oct 2012 11:25 p.m. PST

"Love hearing how common folk speak."

Yes – us posh people never use slang!

Edwulf07 Oct 2012 2:31 a.m. PST

Sorry. Bad typing that should be The common folk.

As in the rank and file. They didn't write as much down see.

McLaddie07 Oct 2012 8:26 p.m. PST

Well, if you are interested in Army slang of the period, one place to find it is in a popular satire of the time, written by a Peninsular veteran:

The Military Adventures of Johnny Newcome 1816

You can download it from Google.

"Johnny Newcome" was another name given to newbies, as opposed to today, when they're called a 'cherry' and other things…

Davout197218 Oct 2012 3:16 p.m. PST

Can't wait for my 7 year old to hear that his favorite cartoon show is really called Merkinbob Squarepants! And to think for 20 years I shoved those things in there not knowing how ignorant I was!

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