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CAG 1921 Sep 2012 2:13 p.m. PST

So apart from the well known classics

Zulu
Zulu Dawn

Gungha Din
Northwest Frontier/Flame Over India
King of the Khyber Rifles/The Black Watch
The Four Feathers
The Brigand of Khandahar
Lives of a Bengal Lancer
Kim
The Man who would be King

Khartoum

Beau Geste
Under Two Flags

55 Days at Peking

what else can be added to whet the appetite and take someone into yet another new gaming project?

MajorB21 Sep 2012 2:19 p.m. PST

Carry on up the Khyber

Iowa Grognard21 Sep 2012 2:20 p.m. PST

Khartoum

Lou from BSM Supporting Member of TMP21 Sep 2012 2:29 p.m. PST

The Man Who Would Be King

55 Days at Peking

DisasterWargamer21 Sep 2012 2:35 p.m. PST

Lawrence of Arabia
March or Die
Lives of a Bengal Lancer
Kim
Sand Pebbles
Lion of the Desert
Breaker Morant
Fort Saganne

MajorB21 Sep 2012 2:40 p.m. PST

Lawrence of Arabia
March or Die
Sand Pebbles
Lion of the Desert
Fort Saganne

All of these are set in the 20th century so don't really qualify as "Colonial" films.

Personal logo ColCampbell Supporting Member of TMP21 Sep 2012 2:49 p.m. PST

Courtesy of Lori Brom:

A sampling of what's available for your viewing pleasure at The Cinema at Colonial Barracks convention in November:

Gunga Din
Zulu
Zulu Dawn
Four Feathers
Khartoum
The Drum
Lives of a Bengal Lancer
The Wind and The Lion
55 Days at Peking
The Real Glory
Beau Geste
Under Two Flags
Drums Along the Mohawk
Northwest Passage
Last of the Mohicans
The Crossing
Waterloo
Fort Apache
She Wore a Yellow Ribbon
Rio Grande
Rough Riders

Lou from BSM Supporting Member of TMP21 Sep 2012 2:51 p.m. PST

The Wind and the Lion

willthepiper21 Sep 2012 3:26 p.m. PST


Lawrence of Arabia
March or Die
Sand Pebbles
Lion of the Desert
Fort Saganne
All of these are set in the 20th century so don't really qualify as "Colonial" films.

I disagree. IMNSHO, the colonial period extends past the end of WWII, to the independence of the colonies.

I'll add to the list from New Zealand (Maori Wars):
Utu
River Queen

From Canada (Riel Rebellion)
Riel (TV miniseries)

Africa:
Mountains of the Moon
Ghost in the Darkness
Shout at the Devil
African Queen
Shaka (tv miniseries)
Legionnaire

India
The Rising: the legend of Mangal Pandy (Bollywood take on the Indian Mutiny!)

Nicaragua
Walker (about William Walker, American filibuster in Nicaragua)

RudyNelson21 Sep 2012 3:38 p.m. PST

I too would consider the colonial era up to the end of WW2.
What was the Gregory peck movie with him in the Philippines as a doctor and the Moros are a big theme?

Seems like there was a movie on the Maori revolts in New Zealand.

I am sure there are a number of non-main stream movies from small countries that would be interesting as well. For example there was a South African movie about the conflict between Boers and Zulus shortly after the turn of the 1900s.

nnascati Supporting Member of TMP21 Sep 2012 4:06 p.m. PST

It was "The Real Glory", Gary Cooper, not Gregory Peck.

nnascati Supporting Member of TMP21 Sep 2012 4:14 p.m. PST

Breaker Morant (the Second Boer War)
Lord Jim (sort of)
Young Winston
The Light that Failed
East of Sudan
Sanders of the River (Paul Robeson)

nnascati Supporting Member of TMP21 Sep 2012 4:15 p.m. PST

Drums Along the Mohawk and Northwest Passage are the wrong sort of Colonial, aren't they?

William Warner21 Sep 2012 4:21 p.m. PST

Burn
Drums

Personal logo Bobgnar Supporting Member of TMP21 Sep 2012 4:47 p.m. PST

People ask these kinds of questions with no definition of what they mean. Then people answer and are told they are wrong.

Do we count USA vs native peoples in the colonial expansion of the USA. Manifest Destiny? Not making a political statement, but what else to call it in the context of this question.

Michael Collins
The Wind the Shakes the Barley
Gandhi

Stanley and Livingston
The Search for the Nile

Rhodes of Africa
found this list for all the Africa films that were missed.
imdb.com/list/kESMXyycsUY

The Lost Command

nnascati Supporting Member of TMP21 Sep 2012 4:54 p.m. PST

Bob,
Good point fro,m you of course. When I see the term "Colonial", I automatically assume they are referring to the "Kipling"/ Sword and the Flame era of roughly 1870 to 1920.

CPBelt21 Sep 2012 5:27 p.m. PST

Interwar period is Pulp, not Colonial. Very different periods IMO. Just sayin'.

Katzbalger21 Sep 2012 6:36 p.m. PST

If we're saying end of WW2, I say why not a little later?

The Wild Geese.

But I prefer pre-WW2 as the cut-off.

Rob

Personal logo John the OFM Supporting Member of TMP21 Sep 2012 7:12 p.m. PST

Is the Major General's site still up? He had a VERY comprehensive list of movies.

Shagnasty21 Sep 2012 8:21 p.m. PST

Wee Willie Winkie

Ravens Forge Miniatures Inactive Member21 Sep 2012 8:52 p.m. PST

Mountains of the Moon

Jakar Nilson21 Sep 2012 9:04 p.m. PST

Would "The Last Remake of Beau Geste" count?

CAG 1921 Sep 2012 11:53 p.m. PST

My bad obviously for posing an ambiguous question on the 19c board ;) Only Joking…..

As Colonialism can cover the period from the 1500s until the period of national liberation movements in the 1960s, I should have bounded the question in terms of both time and space. +/- 20 Years of the 19C in the period of European domination of Africa and Asia.

But, there are some interesting movies in the list outside of what I imagined so why not include them. TMP is a friendly place.

Huscarle Supporting Member of TMP22 Sep 2012 4:01 a.m. PST

There's the Will Hay spoof "Old Bones of the River"
imdb.com/title/tt0030518

The excellent "Guns at Batasi", but post WWII.
imdb.com/title/tt0058166

"Ten Tall Men" imdb.com/title/tt0044110

I suppose you can add "King Solomon's Mines", "She", "The Mummy", "Tarzan" etc to the mix

79thPA Supporting Member of TMP22 Sep 2012 5:47 a.m. PST

March or Die

Personal logo The Virtual Armchair General Sponsoring Member of TMP22 Sep 2012 10:19 a.m. PST

Now, I KNOW this isn't going to happen, but I've just got to spit this out of my craw: The period the majority of Gamers call "Colonials" is really the "Age of Imperialism."

Not to be Marxist (God Forbid!), but when Britain, most of Europe, and ultimately the US all reached out to control lands in other continents--largely Africa, but also Asia and Pacifica--for economic (and other) advantages, this was "Imperialism" in the modern sense of the word.

"Colonials" was certainly coined originally in reference to Imperial Colonies and their wars for control and consolidation, but from the late 1960's until sometime in the late 70's (when I first entered this wing of The Hobby), my first thought at the sight of the word was "The American Colonies," and the age of the Revolution, etc.

Of course I was wrong to think so in terms of the hobby, but that same period is called the era of "Colonialism," and that describes it very well.

If the truth be told--and decades of habit overturned on the basis of one (possible) pedant's post--we should be referring to our interest as "Imperialism," "Imperials," or even "Native Bashing."

If I had to vote, I'd choose the second option, but, like I said, it ain't gonna happen.

TVAG

CAG 1922 Sep 2012 11:48 a.m. PST

Well that effectively kills off this thread, Thanks for the Hijack.

spontoon22 Sep 2012 7:24 p.m. PST

So. We're all agreed then? Mad Max IS a "Colonial" film?

Personal logo John the OFM Supporting Member of TMP23 Sep 2012 7:50 a.m. PST

Well that effectively kills off this thread, Thanks for the Hijack.

HOW was your thread hijacked? By seeking to narrowly define the term?

What is this new trend on TMP, where the OP thinks he can control the direction with rudeness and failing to understand that the question IS being answered?

The OP has NEVER been able to control the direction of a thread, and it is pointless to try, let alone whine about it.

Personal logo John the OFM Supporting Member of TMP23 Sep 2012 7:51 a.m. PST

People ask these kinds of questions with no definition of what they mean. Then people answer and are told they are wrong.
I couldn't agree more.

Personal logo Rrobbyrobot Supporting Member of TMP23 Sep 2012 9:19 a.m. PST

I'm not a computer geek. I'm a wargaming, miniature painting and scratch building nerd. So I guess it's ok for me to ask what, exactly, is this 'hijacking'?
I didn't see any comment that did not in some way contribute to the conversation at hand. Even had someone brought in WW2 itself in trying to define the term 'colonial' it wouldn't be totally wrong. Churchill had among his goals the preservation of the British Empire. Colonies and all. What the Japanese did was nothing short of colonialism.
While TVAG, for example, was not directly responsive to your original question. And while I'm not sure I agree with his point. He was commenting on an issue that was brought up in the thread.
If one means to narrowly define a term then please do so when stating the original question. Or in a follow up comment.
I mean, if one is to assume authority at least be responsible in doing so.

Personal logo Jeremy Sutcliffe Supporting Member of TMP23 Sep 2012 10:28 a.m. PST

OK, so there's no tight definition of "colonial" but the question is asked on the 19thC boards so colonial in the slightly displaced century, 1815 to 1914, might be considered reasonable parameters but in wargaming terms I also suspect we are also saying an industrial colonising power against a native power (with the odd exception such as the Boer War)

Mad Guru Supporting Member of TMP23 Sep 2012 10:36 a.m. PST

A couple more titles from British India, both dealing with operations against the Thuggee movement in the 1830s:

-The Stranglers of Bombay (1959)

-The Deceivers (1988)

Murvihill24 Sep 2012 9:43 a.m. PST

Does "The Little Princess" count? Or does that kill off the thread too?

BullDog69 Inactive Member25 Sep 2012 4:30 a.m. PST

The God-awful BBC mini-series 'Rhodes' though it is ahistorical Politically-Correct garbage in the main

If you can find it, 'The Shangani Patrol'

'Heart of Darkness'

'Northwest Frontier' is one of my favourite to those of us used to him playing the Commissioner in the Pink Panther films and blowing himself up / cutting his fingers off, Hubert Lum is bizarrely cast as a scheming, murderous terrorist type

At the risk of 'Hi-jacking' the thread, one could arguably add most John Wayne era Westerns too. I've also heard the Falklands War described as 'Britain's Last Colonial War', so that takes us into the 1980s.

Is the Boer War really a colonial war? It always (by myself too) gets lumped in with colonial wars, but not sure it really qualifies as one obviously, it all depends on your definition.

Chouan26 Sep 2012 11:25 a.m. PST

The Drum (1938)

Personal logo Jeremy Sutcliffe Supporting Member of TMP26 Sep 2012 12:56 p.m. PST

Bulldog69

I though our last Colonial War was Iraq

BullDog69 Inactive Member27 Sep 2012 2:47 a.m. PST

Jeremy Sutcliffe

I'm intrigued – by what definition?
Is Iraq now a British colony?

138SquadronRAF Supporting Member of TMP01 Oct 2012 6:25 p.m. PST

I disagree with John the OFM, if a you as a question and that question is not being answered to you satisfaction, you have ever right to point out the fact that it has not been answered to your satisfaction.

We know that threads can drift and anyone can point it out.

Not all of us here enjoy highjacking threads.

Looking through the list, you've covered the ones I would include.

Edwulf02 Oct 2012 2:37 a.m. PST

The Decievers – 1825, British officer vs Thuggees. Made an impression on me as a kid.

Edwulf02 Oct 2012 2:52 a.m. PST

The Opium War – Chinese film from the 90s.

Veer – Indian film about Pindaris. Very rosy look at them. They were patriots .. Not violent bandits. Lol. It used to be up on you tube.

Baler – Philippinos vs Spanish.

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