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Musketier21 Aug 2012 7:01 a.m. PST

We were promised some surprises by WGF for GenCon / Historicon, but their forum seems quiet so far. Would anybody who attended either convention care to share the news, if any? Still waiting for that Artillery set, we are…
(apologies if I missed some obvious source, not being well versed in the magic net)

Pictors Studio21 Aug 2012 7:30 a.m. PST

They told me at H-con that they were retooling the molds for the cavalry so that the horses had some sort of base on them. I'm holding off buying any more until that comes true. Then I'm all in.

Diadochoi21 Aug 2012 7:36 a.m. PST

Pictors, just adding a base to the horses or also altering the number of parts the riders come in e.g. Having the legs as one piece?

Edit: and any timescale mentioned?

Musketier21 Aug 2012 7:43 a.m. PST

Thank you Pictor! Well I only bought six boxes of the Cavalry when they were released, so like you I'll wait before buying the other six…

Interesting – in a positive sense – that they should react to customer feedback about difficulties gluing the horses to their bases. Dare we hope for an eventual, corrective retooling of the Infantry sprue?

Dr Mathias Fezian21 Aug 2012 9:00 a.m. PST

Good news on the horse bases. I hope they redo the horse sprue for the recently released samurai cavalry as well. I built some last night and the hooves require pinning… what a pain. Pinning is for metal, dammit!!!

And the horos are wrong :P

Defiance Games21 Aug 2012 3:30 p.m. PST

Really Scott?

Cardinal Hawkwood22 Aug 2012 4:23 a.m. PST

I have been fiddling with the cavalry, amazing what you can do with them

Runicus Fasticus22 Oct 2012 4:52 a.m. PST

Is it just me …or do the horse look wrong ? to long of a body ..something.I wished they had used the ancient cavalry as a start and added saddle and harness ,then they would have looked a lot better.

Griefbringer06 Nov 2012 11:42 a.m. PST

Apparently the WSS artillery is getting close to release.



1ngram07 Nov 2012 3:35 a.m. PST

link doesnt work

DHautpol08 Nov 2012 7:10 a.m. PST

Does for me

Musketier08 Nov 2012 8:03 a.m. PST

Seems it does now, where it may have been overloaded yesterday.

Very much looking forward to these, although once again WGF appears to have been working in their little corner rather than make their product a better one by exposing it to constructive criticism at an early stage…

If two mounted officers for two cannon seem excessive, some of them can be transferred to command infantry units. Still, draught horses and bits for a limber might have been even more useful?

Griefbringer09 Nov 2012 2:11 p.m. PST

Still, draught horses and bits for a limber might have been even more useful?

Very possible.

However, limber with horses could have taken significantly more space on the sprue than a single mounted officer.

Musketier11 Nov 2012 10:19 a.m. PST

Maybe. Then again. a horse is a horse, and a simgle limber wheel would hardly take up more space than the rider. With two sprues that gives you the essential bits for a limber and pair: Most of the rest could be scratch-built from the sprue frame, especialy if a little thought went into the latter's cross-section.

Griefbringer11 Nov 2012 11:54 a.m. PST

Most of the rest could be scratch-built from the sprue frame, especialy if a little thought went into the latter's cross-section.

This sort of heavily DIY approach sounds like a bad idea to me (even though I have built some interesting stuff from plastic sprues). If you want to use the limber as a selling point, then there should be enough parts to provide a complete limber straight out of the box.

Also, providing only a single limber for two guns would still leave a lot of people unhappy.

(That said, I would have expected set like this to provide three guns rather than two.)

Musketier12 Nov 2012 3:34 a.m. PST

Not so much DIY as lateral thinking on the manufacturer's part: If you need straight lengths with a round or square cross-section, no need to cast them as such – just shape and designate parts of the frame accordingly, saving space 'inside" the frame for more complex shapes?
With all the building they need to do anyway, I don't think many people would mind having to put the limber's A-frame together instead of getting it as one piece. Many sprues also have a small flat 'board' in the centre, and/or a spike…

Now I don't claim to be an expert on casting techniques, it just goes against the grain to see 50% of the material content of the box going to waste.

Musketier19 Nov 2012 3:47 a.m. PST

WF have now announced the imminent release on their forum.

Billing the mounted fellows as "senior officers" would appear to clarify the intention of what is, in effect, an "Artillery & Staff" set. With generals required in approximatley equal numbers to guns, a combined set may be the only viable way of producing them, and could well turn out to be a winning formula. The latter will depend on how different man and horse are from the cavalry set.

Daisy Nanton29 Nov 2012 2:53 p.m. PST

WSS Artillery now shipping, Thanks!


Musketier30 Nov 2012 2:55 a.m. PST

Excellent stuff! I'll need at least four of these boxes, probably more, as well as more Horse and Foot now that the range is complete. Will order from the UK though, as customs hit me hard the last time I ordered direct.

One might have hoped for a breastplate under the senior officer's coat, but a little knifework will see off what looks like waistcoat buttons.

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