Lentulus | 13 Aug 2012 4:08 p.m. PST |
I have ordered some, but I am an impatient sort and want to do some army planning. |
Pedrobear | 13 Aug 2012 4:36 p.m. PST |
60mm would be a tight squeeze for 3, but sparse for 2. These are on 25mm wide bases:
link You might be better off with 3 on a 80mm wide frontage. |
Rich Bliss | 13 Aug 2012 5:50 p.m. PST |
Is that guy riding a griffin? |
Garand | 13 Aug 2012 6:13 p.m. PST |
Looks like it is actually a demi-gryph. No wings, you see
Damon. |
jay138 | 13 Aug 2012 6:37 p.m. PST |
I believe FOG has three on a 60mm frontage. Nice work on those pedrobear, love the demi-griffin I didn't get one with my set. |
Pedrobear | 13 Aug 2012 7:07 p.m. PST |
It's a D&D pre-painted hippogriff with its wings pulled off. I repainted it but left the eyes as is – I think they did a good job on that. |
Puster | 14 Aug 2012 1:55 a.m. PST |
Same problem here, basing them for FOG-R
2 is a bit sparse, 3 too dense. Though you get away with three if you do not put them exactly abreast but allow for some variance here. I put my Foundrys at thee per base this way. I am contemplating to build them at 5 per 12cm – allowing for double bases in FOG-R and Impetus bases. Perhaps alternating 2 and 3 per base will work
BTW: I agree, fine work Pedrobear! |
Griefbringer | 14 Aug 2012 2:01 a.m. PST |
Since I had some of the figures in question at hand (not yet attached to bases), I did a quick experiment and it is possible to fit three of those models on a 60 mm frontage. However, this requires that you place them on the base in a slightly triangular formation, with the middle cavalryman either slightly ahead or behind his comrades, otherwise there is not enough room for his feet. Combined with the dynamic poses of the horses, this means that they will require quite some depth – so if you are planning on fielding multiple ranks of gendarmes, you might want to pay particular attention on how the horse hooves and heads protrude outside the base in depth. I am not sure what base depth FoG uses for the cavalry, but in the Perry set you will find a sprue of Renedra bases, including a number of 60x45 mm bases. |
Puster | 14 Aug 2012 4:00 a.m. PST |
Official depth is 40mm, which is imho too short. But longer bases are no problem with FOGR, so 60*45 are fine, and the also available 20*45 are pretty good addons for singles. |
Griefbringer | 14 Aug 2012 5:27 a.m. PST |
40 mm depth certainly sounds problematic with these figures, if you are planning to field them in multiple ranks. Mine are based on 25x50 mm bases (for those that have been based so far), which gives quite comfortable depth, but I still need to pay some attention on which horses can be place on the second rank without colliding with the tails of the previous horses. If using 45 mm deep bases, I would recommend paying particular attention to the assembly and choice of heads on the horses, especially those on the possible second rank. |
Lentulus | 14 Aug 2012 9:34 a.m. PST |
You know, the more I look at this the more I think "I will play FoG with my 15mm figures and less rigorously based games with my 28s" Thanks for looking at this for me. |
Puster | 14 Aug 2012 11:21 a.m. PST |
All that really matters is the front width, the depth can be adjusted upward – the given values are more a minimum, and you gain nothing and loose not much by making bases longer. In addition, you can put as many minis on the bases as you want, just keep it consistent (so no cramming on the scout base while a single heavy infantrist longs for company on his base). But I can recommend Impetus for the Italian and Condottiere wars – being made in Italy, it somehow works pretty well for this era – and 12*6cm unit bases allow for a lot of variety, you can even magnetize single base minis on them and use these individually for other games. |
Thomas Thomas | 14 Aug 2012 1:08 p.m. PST |
The figures actually come with 20mm wide single bases and 60mm wide multi-bases which is FOG/DB frontage. For what its worth I use them for DBA3.0 gaming which has 60mm frontage and base them either 2 or 3 depending on pose. Works fine. Extra depth a great idea and we have added this option to DBA3.0. So no need to stick to 15s for any of the muli-base games. Another option I use is putting figs on 25mm/50mm magnet bases and them just sticking them on 60mmX50mm bases for DB/FOG gaming. TomT |