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Johny Boy02 Aug 2012 3:15 p.m. PST

Any suggestions, I'm thinking of doing some scratch building requiring rivets in 15mm, have seen a couple of suggestions including heating a needle and pushing through the plastic from behind, using very small drops of PVA glue allowed to harden, any other suggestions?

Cheers

Farstar02 Aug 2012 3:21 p.m. PST

An image search turned up this:

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But I don't think these are the rivets you are looking for.
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Personal logo Saber6 Supporting Member of TMP Fezian02 Aug 2012 3:39 p.m. PST

I was looking for a Big Bopper…

GrumpyOldMan02 Aug 2012 3:43 p.m. PST

Hi Johny Boy

Have a look at Archer surface detail decals :-

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They have them in both ho/oo and n scale as well generic sizes. Easier than the methods you mention :).

Cheers

GrumpyOldMan

Mako1102 Aug 2012 4:13 p.m. PST

I've heard the behind technique works well, on thin styrene.

Yesthatphil02 Aug 2012 4:26 p.m. PST

I find the blob method is the easiest and quickest … the rivets (all of them) on this recent BT job took about 20 minutes or so – the only special equipment being a cocktail stick.

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The first time I tried the technique, I was a little slower and more 'accurate' (but of course accurate rivets don't really show in 1:100) and the advantage of PVA blobs is that they just scrape off if you really do think you've got it wrong – but you can be as fine or as heroic as you like.

FWIW I think it is actually easier than painting dots on (certainly than fixing surface decals) … but, then again, I've actually done it (so I'm not guessing) …

These are a bit more 'cartoony' … but that was the effect I was after:

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Phil
P.B.Eye-Candy

myxemail02 Aug 2012 5:28 p.m. PST

I think the rivet decals sold by MicroMark is the way to go. Consistent sizes and easy to apply.

Mike

Rrobbyrobot02 Aug 2012 5:31 p.m. PST

Hey Phil,
The rivet work is outrageous! First the excellent BT arty tank, then that neato railroad gun. I've got to learn that.
What do you think, Johny Boy?

DuckanCover02 Aug 2012 9:35 p.m. PST

Thanks Grumpy, I couldn't remember Archer's name, and I couldn't find my bookmark for them. Fixed that! grin

Duck

Jerrod03 Aug 2012 2:48 a.m. PST

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grandt line nuts & bolts of all types.
lion-roar etch-brass nuts & bolts

/Dee

DuckanCover04 Aug 2012 3:05 a.m. PST

Boy, those "Lion Roar" bolt heads are a wonder!

Duck

Personal logo miniMo Supporting Member of TMP05 Aug 2012 7:09 p.m. PST

The rivets on these 15mm pavisses were done by pressing .030 sheet styrene from behind with a somewhat blunted small awl., no heat needed. A finer result could be done with a finer tipped awl.

Hmm, Boppers! Great linke Farstar ^,^

GeoffQRF06 Aug 2012 5:15 a.m. PST

Always questionable whether a rivet should even show up at nominally 1/100th of its actual scale. A 1mm rivet would scale up to 10cm across…

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While visually prominent, these measure perhaps 3cm across and 1.5cm deep… so you are looking for a 15mm rivet of about 1/3mm diameter. :-)

CooperSteveOnTheLaptop06 Aug 2012 5:44 a.m. PST

I may be a tragic gamer, but 1/100 rivets do not feature in my sadness. There's hope for me yet.

Johny Boy06 Aug 2012 6:39 a.m. PST

CooperSteve, revel in the fact you are free, this is modeling OCD i know, it's a curse, but I got to do it :-), i'm thinking stamping from behind is the solution for what I had in mind. Geoff you are right on the mark re scale, it would be more accurate without, but i'm thinking about recreating in 15mm sometghing of the Dust aesthetic for a walker and want to suggest something that comes from a 1940's/ 50's mindset in terms of construction, eg model below

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Thanks to everyone for their input as always guys, pics up as the project develops

GeoffQRF06 Aug 2012 7:19 a.m. PST

It's always a difficult call as a designer. A 1/10th mm panel line becomes a 10mm cavern between panels when scaled up. True scale rivets are just almost impossible to reproduce (and would probably disappear beneath a coat of paint).

If you are building something like that those Lion Roar hex bolt heads look idea (in a very small sale), but fiddly to glue individually and get them all straight…

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