"SAGA double whammy" Topic

We played two games of SAGA last night back to back and here are the AAR´s:

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Enjoy,

Burkhard
Just a short preview:

Beautiful table.
i wonder if people will drop SAGA for Dux Brit.

Really lovely table. Superb looking games.

Dux B and Saga are quite different creatures. :)

Dux Bellorum is a mass-combat system. You can easily "convert" your Saga figures into DB units by putting them on a movement tray. Distances in the game are measured in Base Widths, so scale isnt really an issue.

It's a matter of whether you feel like skirmish or mass-combat for the week.

Dux Brittanarium starts at the numbers SAGA starts to struggle at, they are also aimed at different time periods.

Why should people change from one to the other, there is no rule that you can only use one set at a time, so why not use both!

Thank you guys!

The big apeal of SAGA for me is the small number of minis you need. While I always found the period interesting, I never did on a level that I would be willing to paint the numbers required under most other Dark Age / Medival rules sets. Thats why I play SAGA.

Great looking game.

Raglan

Why should people change from one to the other, there is no rule that you can only use one set at a time, so why not use both!

With SAGA so closely followed by Comitatus, and a "pair of Dux" (Brittanarium and Bellorum), I can't wait to see a comprehensive comparison.

JJ

Great layout. Thanks for posting. Richard

i wonder if people will drop SAGA for Dux Brit.

not for me, I saw DB at historicon and noticed it wasn't skirmish based.

Then again, can you actually get the dice you need to play DB?

A stunning display !

I am waiting for the Arthurian version of Saga! A little bird told me it's in the pipe…

Dux Britanniarum is skirmish based, although we do use movement trays for the various groups as that speeds things up.

You can get cheap blank dice here:
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Then get some sticky-backed label paper from an Office Depot or sim. office supply store. Download and print the dice symbols from the SAGA Forum onto the sticky back paper, affix the symbols to the blank dice and viola, you have SAGA dice!

In the UK there's blankdice.co.uk for indented blank dice.

I'll stick to DBA three for my medieval games.

Thanks guys!

We will stick to SAGA for the time being I think… It is what we want… A fun fast game.

Burkhard, your table looks superb. May I ask if it is some sort of flocked cloth as a base or is it solid board. Also, the buildings are beautiful, could you tell me who makes them?

Richard

Richard,

table are styrofoam boards (although these days I would use pink foam). 3cm thick cut to 50cm x 50cm. I glued HDF board to one side to prevent warping and static grass mats to the other side (I think the variety was called forest floor, but I can not remember the manufacturer). I glued strips to the sides of the styrofoam as well, to make the gaps less visible. Everything was sealed with thinned whiteglue to prevent the grass from rubbing off. Some time this year I airbrushed a brown and a tan colour over it all to make it look less like a park. The hillsides are just styrofoam cut to shape. They can create hills of their own or large hills by placing two terrain boards on top of each other and placing the hill sides on their edges. That way I can create real contours. Same works for rivers as well, although I will do some dedicated river peices later this year.

The building were sold by Warlord Games a couple of years back, but they are not selling them anymore. When I posted pictures of them a couple of weeks ago someone mentioned that they are sold by Monolith these days, but they do not apear on their website, so you might have to eMail them. Back when Warlord sold them they were dead cheap though.

If you want more info this link will take you only to those posts on my blog dedicated to terrain.

Cheers,

Burkhard

Nice stuff, Burkhard. Maybe I need a copy of Saga too.

That is an absolutely beautiful gaming set up, kudos to you for the great presentation.

Allen

Outstanding tabletop !! :)

Hang on! I'm sure I saw that table design on the telly. Something to do with the start of the London Olympics?

Very nice work btw.

Thanks again guys! This huge response really humbles me!

Nice layout.

Does the lack of history in Saga not worry you?

Usually it would, but since we are not looking for a historical simulation with SAGA but rather a fun game we can set up with little preparation it is fine!

What special dice for which DB?

If Bellorum requires "average dice" as GoR did, just read 1 as 3 and 6 as 4. Or mark out the center two pips on the six and add two pips on the one.

As far as special dice go I think SAGA has the most, and the most complicated to use with "regular" dice.

What has kept me from jumping into Saga is the price. $55 USD for the rule book, $25 USD for dice, $135 USD for a starter deal. I really need to play it and enjoy it first at this cost.

I already have lots of Arthurian figures, so Dux, Dux, Glutter is the way I'm going. If I already had the figures I might do Saga.

If hey come out with an Arthurian version as a stand alone I will very likely buy in. As is, I am holding off for now, but it sounds like a fun game.

Your. Table set up is fantastic no matter what rules you are playing.

Thanks Dave!

We got away with less. We share one rule book amongst us and I for one went for the Plastic Vikings with only a few metals to beef them up. So the cost for minis in my case was only around 25 GB£. And the dice can be DIYed (although I bought mine), too.

Cheers,

Burkhard