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Personal logo 14th Brooklyn Supporting Member of TMP28 Jul 2012 4:41 a.m. PST

We played two games of SAGA last night back to back and here are the AAR´s:

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Enjoy,

Burkhard
Just a short preview:

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yoakley28 Jul 2012 5:03 a.m. PST

Beautiful table.
i wonder if people will drop SAGA for Dux Brit.

Tin Soldier Man Supporting Member of TMP28 Jul 2012 5:08 a.m. PST

Really lovely table. Superb looking games.

Pedrobear Supporting Member of TMP28 Jul 2012 5:09 a.m. PST

Dux B and Saga are quite different creatures. :)

Dux Bellorum is a mass-combat system. You can easily "convert" your Saga figures into DB units by putting them on a movement tray. Distances in the game are measured in Base Widths, so scale isnt really an issue.

It's a matter of whether you feel like skirmish or mass-combat for the week.

Rapier Miniatures Sponsoring Member of TMP28 Jul 2012 5:24 a.m. PST

Dux Brittanarium starts at the numbers SAGA starts to struggle at, they are also aimed at different time periods.

Why should people change from one to the other, there is no rule that you can only use one set at a time, so why not use both!

Personal logo 14th Brooklyn Supporting Member of TMP28 Jul 2012 5:54 a.m. PST

Thank you guys!

The big apeal of SAGA for me is the small number of minis you need. While I always found the period interesting, I never did on a level that I would be willing to paint the numbers required under most other Dark Age / Medival rules sets. Thats why I play SAGA.

Lord Raglan Inactive Member28 Jul 2012 5:56 a.m. PST

Great looking game.

Raglan

Terrement Supporting Member of TMP28 Jul 2012 6:04 a.m. PST

Why should people change from one to the other, there is no rule that you can only use one set at a time, so why not use both!

With SAGA so closely followed by Comitatus, and a "pair of Dux" (Brittanarium and Bellorum), I can't wait to see a comprehensive comparison.

JJ

War In 15MM28 Jul 2012 6:12 a.m. PST

Great layout. Thanks for posting. Richard

Mr Elmo28 Jul 2012 6:31 a.m. PST

i wonder if people will drop SAGA for Dux Brit.

not for me, I saw DB at historicon and noticed it wasn't skirmish based.

Then again, can you actually get the dice you need to play DB?

Patrick R28 Jul 2012 7:01 a.m. PST

A stunning display !

axabrax28 Jul 2012 7:04 a.m. PST

I am waiting for the Arthurian version of Saga! A little bird told me it's in the pipe…

Personal logo toofatlardies Sponsoring Member of TMP28 Jul 2012 7:09 a.m. PST

Dux Britanniarum is skirmish based, although we do use movement trays for the various groups as that speeds things up.

coopman28 Jul 2012 7:20 a.m. PST

You can get cheap blank dice here:
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Then get some sticky-backed label paper from an Office Depot or sim. office supply store. Download and print the dice symbols from the SAGA Forum onto the sticky back paper, affix the symbols to the blank dice and viola, you have SAGA dice!

Derek H28 Jul 2012 7:30 a.m. PST

In the UK there's blankdice.co.uk for indented blank dice.

Personal logo Bobgnar Supporting Member of TMP28 Jul 2012 7:56 a.m. PST

I'll stick to DBA three for my medieval games.

Personal logo 14th Brooklyn Supporting Member of TMP28 Jul 2012 8:06 a.m. PST

Thanks guys!

We will stick to SAGA for the time being I think… It is what we want… A fun fast game.

Personal logo toofatlardies Sponsoring Member of TMP28 Jul 2012 8:50 a.m. PST

Burkhard, your table looks superb. May I ask if it is some sort of flocked cloth as a base or is it solid board. Also, the buildings are beautiful, could you tell me who makes them?

Richard

Personal logo 14th Brooklyn Supporting Member of TMP28 Jul 2012 9:11 a.m. PST

Richard,

table are styrofoam boards (although these days I would use pink foam). 3cm thick cut to 50cm x 50cm. I glued HDF board to one side to prevent warping and static grass mats to the other side (I think the variety was called forest floor, but I can not remember the manufacturer). I glued strips to the sides of the styrofoam as well, to make the gaps less visible. Everything was sealed with thinned whiteglue to prevent the grass from rubbing off. Some time this year I airbrushed a brown and a tan colour over it all to make it look less like a park. The hillsides are just styrofoam cut to shape. They can create hills of their own or large hills by placing two terrain boards on top of each other and placing the hill sides on their edges. That way I can create real contours. Same works for rivers as well, although I will do some dedicated river peices later this year.

The building were sold by Warlord Games a couple of years back, but they are not selling them anymore. When I posted pictures of them a couple of weeks ago someone mentioned that they are sold by Monolith these days, but they do not apear on their website, so you might have to eMail them. Back when Warlord sold them they were dead cheap though.

If you want more info this link will take you only to those posts on my blog dedicated to terrain.

Cheers,

Burkhard

Personal logo vtsaogames Supporting Member of TMP28 Jul 2012 10:23 a.m. PST

Nice stuff, Burkhard. Maybe I need a copy of Saga too.

Personal logo rampantlion Supporting Member of TMP28 Jul 2012 11:13 a.m. PST

That is an absolutely beautiful gaming set up, kudos to you for the great presentation.

Allen

moocifer Inactive Member28 Jul 2012 12:44 p.m. PST

Outstanding tabletop !! :)

Brown Fez Inactive Member28 Jul 2012 4:16 p.m. PST

Hang on! I'm sure I saw that table design on the telly. Something to do with the start of the London Olympics?

Very nice work btw.

Personal logo 14th Brooklyn Supporting Member of TMP28 Jul 2012 11:15 p.m. PST

Thanks again guys! This huge response really humbles me!

10thFoot Inactive Member29 Jul 2012 4:51 a.m. PST

Nice layout.

Does the lack of history in Saga not worry you?

Personal logo 14th Brooklyn Supporting Member of TMP29 Jul 2012 7:17 a.m. PST

Usually it would, but since we are not looking for a historical simulation with SAGA but rather a fun game we can set up with little preparation it is fine!

Dave Crowell30 Jul 2012 5:51 p.m. PST

What special dice for which DB?

If Bellorum requires "average dice" as GoR did, just read 1 as 3 and 6 as 4. Or mark out the center two pips on the six and add two pips on the one.

As far as special dice go I think SAGA has the most, and the most complicated to use with "regular" dice.

What has kept me from jumping into Saga is the price. $55 USD for the rule book, $25 USD for dice, $135 USD for a starter deal. I really need to play it and enjoy it first at this cost.

I already have lots of Arthurian figures, so Dux, Dux, Glutter is the way I'm going. If I already had the figures I might do Saga.

If hey come out with an Arthurian version as a stand alone I will very likely buy in. As is, I am holding off for now, but it sounds like a fun game.

Your. Table set up is fantastic no matter what rules you are playing.

Personal logo 14th Brooklyn Supporting Member of TMP30 Jul 2012 11:12 p.m. PST

Thanks Dave!

We got away with less. We share one rule book amongst us and I for one went for the Plastic Vikings with only a few metals to beef them up. So the cost for minis in my case was only around 25 GB£. And the dice can be DIYed (although I bought mine), too.

Cheers,

Burkhard

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