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Personal logo Der Alte Fritz Sponsoring Member of TMP24 Jul 2012 6:53 p.m. PST

Hello everyone. Bill Nevins asked me to post these work in progress ("WIP") pictures of the 71st Highlanders during the AWI that he has commissioned for his own needs. The figures, sculpted by Alan Marsh (who also made the AWI figures for Eureka) will be 28mm and Perry compatible. This looks like a promising range of figures.

The figures are a little bit bulkier in the green to allow for shrink during the mould making process. The final production figures will be thinner, and as I say, Perry Compatible. So that should give you an idea of what to expect from the end result. Bill will have a range of 16 figures for a firing line and (I think) advancing poses. I'm sure that Bill will comment of the figures shortly, but he was having some computer problems and I offered to help get the pix posted here on TMP so that you can all see the progress to date.

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Bandolier24 Jul 2012 8:22 p.m. PST

Looking good.

epturner25 Jul 2012 3:22 a.m. PST

Bill does love the "combat" poses. I've always preferred the marching ones. We've done a few deals over the years, whereby I've purchased the "unloved marchers" from him.

These look quite good.

Eric

Chortle Fezian25 Jul 2012 4:12 a.m. PST

Jim, they look great.

I wonder how the open mouths will look when they are painted. Perhaps a few gritted teeth are going in there?

Disco Joe25 Jul 2012 5:11 a.m. PST

They do look good.

ACWBill25 Jul 2012 8:52 a.m. PST

Excellent work and some different poses point to puchase. Well done!

GROSSMAN25 Jul 2012 11:18 a.m. PST

Mouth breathers the Scots are.

spontoon27 Jul 2012 1:50 p.m. PST

everyone seems obsessed with the 71st. Highlanders! What about the 73rd.,74th., 76th.!

95thRegt28 Jul 2012 12:29 p.m. PST

everyone seems obsessed with the 71st. Highlanders! What about the 73rd.,74th., 76th.!
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These can be used as such.
I also don't care for the kneeling firing pose. Was never used in the drill manuals of the time..

Bob

number428 Jul 2012 2:21 p.m. PST

I hate that pose too – but it was in the 64 manual

"Front rank
Make Ready!
Spring the Firelock briskly to the Recover, keeping the left Foot fast in this Motion: as soon as the Firelock is at the Recover, without an stop sink the Body briskly without stooping forward, with a quick Motion down upon the right Knee, the Butt-End of the Firelock at the same Time falls upon the Ground, the front Part of the Butt to be in a Line with the Heel of the left Foot; as soon as the Butt comes to the Ground, the Firelock is to be cocked, immediately seizing the Cock and Steel in the right Hand, the Firelock to be held firm in the left Hand, about the Middle of that Part of the Firelock between the lock and the Swell of the Stock; the Point of the left Thumb to be close to the Swell pointing upwards.
As the Body is sinking, the right Knee is to be thrown so far back as the left Leg may be right up and down, the right Foot to be thrown a little to the Right, the Body to be kept streight, the Head up, looking to the Right along the Rank, the same as if shouldered; the Firelock to be upright, and the Butt about four inches to the Right of the Inside of the left Foot……"

In the manual yes – in the field, I doubt it. Most accounts describe the British in two rank formation. But at least these figures are not in kilts!

Personal logo Der Alte Fritz Sponsoring Member of TMP28 Jul 2012 2:50 p.m. PST

@number4: are there any drawings of the British manual of arms for this period showing the different steps in the process of loading, presenting and firing, etc.?

I've seen similar drawings for the French but never the British. It would come in handy for designing wargame figure ranges.

95thRegt28 Jul 2012 3:58 p.m. PST

In the manual yes – in the field, I doubt it. Most accounts describe the British in two rank formation. But at least these figures are not in kilts!
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You're right,my bad. I have a drill manual for militia,and didn't see it in there.
Yes! Thank God they're not in kilts!

Bob

spontoon29 Jul 2012 4:11 p.m. PST

Everyone should be in a kilt!

epturner30 Jul 2012 3:48 a.m. PST

No, not everyone. And I look forward to these figures. I'd like to use them for more than the 71st, like Spontoon says.

Bob, I was hoping to get to Oriskany next weekend, but it looks like I'll be playing modern Army 1:1 scale instead, are you going to Mount Harmon Plantation in October?

Eric

95thRegt30 Jul 2012 7:47 p.m. PST

Bob, I was hoping to get to Oriskany next weekend, but it looks like I'll be playing modern Army 1:1 scale instead, are you going to Mount Harmon Plantation in October?
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Mt Harmon where???
Not in a AWI mood at the moment. I'm full bore into ACW and Roman at the moment.
I'll have to see what Oct. brings…

Bob

number431 Jul 2012 9:43 a.m. PST

are there any drawings of the British manual of arms for this period showing the different steps in the process of loading, presenting and firing, etc.?

Not too many that I know of personally, but before our period there is this:

EXERCISE for the FOOT 1757 with the differences to be observed in the Dragoon Exercise By Order of H.R.H. Prince William Augustus, etc., etc. contains the complete instructions describing all of the movements for the comprehensive manual of arms developed for use by all British army troops anywhere in the world. It has been copied from a very rare pamphlet which also included The differences to be observed in the Dragoon Exercise. This printing is accompanied by the 47 illustrations published two years later as A Plan of Discipline Composed for the use of The Norfolk Militia. by William Windham and an explanation of where they fit into the Duke's Exercise. 44 pp., 61 ill. link

So much of this stuff was 'hands on' experience in those days – in fact the Royal Artillery never even had a written tactics manual until the 19th century!

I found this interesting drawing

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but there's no source listed…

epturner31 Jul 2012 11:10 a.m. PST

Bob;
Romans? That's a bit diff.

Mt. Harmon is near the MD/DE border somewhere. Apparently is was a great hoot of an event last year.

My unit, the 1NJ, hosts it.

Eric

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