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Chortle Fezian20 Jul 2012 6:59 a.m. PST

Did the Baden Guard du Corps and Baden Guard Grenadiers see any action?

I haven't noticed them in any actions in 1809, when Baden was otherwise active.

Marcus Maximus20 Jul 2012 12:34 p.m. PST

Try this link:

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Garde du Corps saw action in Russia as well as other Baden units.

Is it just 1809 campaign you are after?

Chortle Fezian20 Jul 2012 6:15 p.m. PST

I'm interested in the whole Napoleonic wars. So glad to pick them up for Russia.

Were there only the two companies of the Guard du Corps? Bicorne sell them as a whole regiment (24 figures).

Seroga20 Jul 2012 9:14 p.m. PST

For the Garde-du-Corps, a total of 116 all ranks was the establishment. Actually the unit was staffed as follows, presumably for cost reduction, until at least 1815.


Großherzoglich badischen Garde du Corps Eskadron

6 officers
9 non-commissioned officers
2 trumpeters (1 in reserve, without horse)
10 carabiniers
50 gardes (10 in reserve, without horses)
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77 total (of which 66 mounted for service)


So although called a "squadron", the unit was really the size of a company.
Commanders were : 1800 Obristlieutenant v. Münching, 1806 Stabs-Rittmeister v. Baumbach, 1814 Major u. Flügeladjutant v. Geusau
They did not leave their garrison in Karlsruhe, except in 1815, when they went to the seige of Strasbourg.

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The website linked above has confused the Baden Life-Grenadier-Guard Battalion with the Life-Grenadier Regiment. The latter, of 2 battalions, did have the extended combat record listed at the website. Their regimental history link

For the unit that was asked about ….

Großherzoglich badischen Leib-Grenadier-Garde Bataillon

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The Inhaber was Großherzog Carl Friederich.
The commanders were : 1800 Oberst v. Stetten, 1806 Oberst v. Porbeck, Obristlieutenant u. Flügeladjutant v. Stockhorn, 1814 Obristlieutenant v. Beust
To my knowledge, the unit did not leave its duties guarding the Grand Ducal palace until the months of January and February 1814, when they attended the battles of Brienne and La Rothière, standing in the reserve.

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Chortle Fezian20 Jul 2012 10:57 p.m. PST

Seroga – thank you very much. You really helped me.

Cathusac1 Supporting Member of TMP29 Jul 2012 1:25 p.m. PST

The Badeners sent most of their field army (along with Guard Grenadier Battalion (one of the two mentoned earlier) with the Austrian II Corps of the Austrian Army of the Upper Rhine in 1815… I don't know of any actions the Badeners took part in, but the component of the AotUR they were attached to (all the Austrian contingent (bar an infantry Division and a 1- or 2- regiment cavalry brigade) turned south once passing by or through Switzerland, into France, with the intention of flanking French forces in the south of France and along the Italian border…Sending over 120,000 men to flank about 30,000 French field army at best), with 2 Austrian armies at least 80,000 between them approaching from across Italy. Any actions would have involved battling French rearguards or blockading garrisons. Something to offer What-if battles and campaigns..the Army of the Upper Rhine was easily double the size of the Prussian army of the Waterloo campaign, and split into two broad contingents both similar size to the Prussians.

Marcus Maximus29 Jul 2012 11:48 p.m. PST

@Seroga – that you for the link you have provided, I wasn't aware that book could be read on google books. Where did you obtain the batallion org structure diagram from and the two pictures of the uniforms?

Many thanks Seroga.

A note to myself to have a peruse of google books when I get some time free. I love the internet – information in a matter of hours at the touch of a fingertip or two, as long you can get someone to verify the source(s).

Seroga30 Jul 2012 9:19 a.m. PST

Hi Marcus,

Thank you for your kind words!

They images are from histunif.com – it is a good site for Italians and German-speaking smaller states. It is in French, however. You will likely need to re-search the German material to see how things are/were called in German (if you care about this).

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