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14Bore06 Jul 2012 4:53 p.m. PST

Any discriptions,color plates or photos of figures of this odd unit(s)? They have me interested, and you never can have to many Cossacks.

14Bore06 Jul 2012 4:58 p.m. PST

The Naval Board was a mistake, unless the Cossacks manned Ships as well.

Personal logo Gonsalvo Supporting Member of TMP06 Jul 2012 5:50 p.m. PST

In the background there is a Cossack horse battery painted by Czar Barry; the figures are 28mm by Steve Barber Models:

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Peter

Seroga06 Jul 2012 9:27 p.m. PST

Kuban Cossacks did man ships. Still do.

But, I think you are asking about the Don Cossack horse artillery companies that served against the French. Before 1816, they had standrd Don Cossack uniforms.

Uniforms link , which is a translation of listat.ru/T18/T18_01.htm – in the Russian version, you will find, by number, links to the illustrations.


Kazach'ya konno-artilleriyskaya rota № 1
voyskovoy starshina Tatsyn 4-y Pyotr Fyodorovich
Kazach'ya konno-artilleriyskaya rota № 2
voyskovoy starshina Suvorov 2-y Pyotr Vasil'evich
Kazach'ya konno-artilleriyskaya rota № 3 (x.1813)
voyskovoy starshina Kirpichyov 1-y Ivan Ivanovich
Kazach'ya zapasnaya konno-artilleriyskaya polurota (vii.1812)

rabbit07 Jul 2012 3:42 a.m. PST

First page of this link, panel three

link

image of cossack artillery, sometimes the plates show up, sometimes they do not, I do not know why.

Steve Barber does the figs in 28mm, four different figs, two with fur hats, one with a flat cap one with a cloth cap.

I have some and they are nice figures

enjoy

rabbit

Gazzola07 Jul 2012 12:00 p.m. PST

14Bore

I don't know if this helps, but Stephen Summerfield, in his book Cossack Hurrah, describes the Don Cossack Horse Artillery as being uniformed in a black fur hat (Astrakhan/colpak), with a tall white plumne on the left side, red bag and white cords. But this is usually replaced on campaign with a blue fatigue cap with a red band. Blue doubled breasted coat with red piping, blue trousers with leather reinforcements. Blue shabraque with red trim and they were armed with sabre and pistols.

They had two batteries in 1812, with each battery consisting of six 6pdrs and six unicorn howitzers. A third battery was introduced in 1813.

summerfield09 Jul 2012 3:02 a.m. PST

Dear 14bore
The official uniform is given above by John Walsh (Gazzola). Over the campaign as with other Cossacks the "uniform" became more irregular. Other interesting batteries were formed by the Opolchenie.

Cossacks Hurrah
link

Opolchenie, Partizans and Russo-German Legion
link

Stephen

Seroga09 Jul 2012 10:46 a.m. PST

Dear Dr. Summerfield,

Do you know of other opolchenie artillery besides these?

Tul'skaya opolcheniya konno-artilleriyskaya rota
Tula militia horse artillery company
- formed from vii.1812 under the command of major Kuchin, who then retired – 12 pieces, 340 other ranks
- lieutenant Zybin appointed to command, but he died of illness and was replaced by lieutenant Novokshchenov
- defended Tula city from x.1812 and then sent to the siege of Danzig
- in summer 1813 split into 2 half-companies, one foot and one horse

4x Poltavskya opolcheniya konno-artilleriyskaya polurota
4x Poltava militia horse artillery half-company
- formed from viii.1812 for service with the first 4 horse Cossack regiments of the Poltava opolchenie
- 6 pieces in each half-company

14Bore15 Jul 2012 3:31 p.m. PST

So could I pull off with any convincing someone other than myself turning my 15 Silesian Landwehr "Artillerymen" into Cossack Artillerymen? I would add 3 Cossack horsemen and then come up with 1 and a half batteries. All my horse batteries have at least 1 mounted figure with each with the exception of 2 R-D Horse Batteries.

rabbit16 Jul 2012 8:34 a.m. PST

@ 14Bore

I don't need any convincing, doing it already. I have some of Mr Calpe's Prussian Artillery crew, in caps, which will become part of a Opolchenie / Cossack battery

Foundry's Crimean War Artillery crew make passable Artillery crew for the irregular batteries, assuming you don't mind the slightly smaller scale and the cost. As the battery is an irregular unit, they might not be in the prescribed uniform, so you could try the odd Redoubt ACW artillery crew figure in shirt-sleeve order. Redoubt have done these without heads and they do bare-headed variants to get you around the headgear problem, or I think it is Warlord who do packs of spare heads in caps.

I am also using some of Mr Calpe's Landwehr as Opolchenie infantry. As Front Rank St Petersburg Militia figs do not have drummers or standard bearers I am using Calpe figures to add colour and variety. Warlord do a nice figure of two Prussian Landwehr, a drummer and a standard bearer supporting each other, they are a tad small, but could well be a drummer boy and his buddy run off to the war!

A friend of mine is using Front Rank Moscow Opolchenie (Open handed figures) as Opolchenie Artillery, placing rammers, hammers and trail spikes into their open hands. Figures are a bit static, but for a battery of 12 figs, it is not too bad with the odd Officer thrown in

Do you have specific figures for your Silesian Landwehr Artillerymen? I am always on the look out for different artillery crew.

I would prefer my Don Cossack battery to be more uniform than is possible with the Steve Barber figures (sorry Steve), so it will be a case of chopping off some of their heads and fitting others in Colpacks.

rabbit

14Bore16 Jul 2012 4:59 p.m. PST

Years ago, before I joined TMP, I read 3 btrys were Landwehr so I converted some Silesian Ldw Inf into artillerymen cutting off muskets completely or cut down to look like a prepared round with ball and powder bag (Not hard at 15mm). I turned some pikes into sponge rammers dipping the end repeatedly into white glue until I thought it looked right. They all have schirmutzes and litewkas so I would like to add Cossacks in fur hats and loose their lances.

rabbit17 Jul 2012 1:44 a.m. PST

Ahhh!

Sorry I had assumed (wrongly) that you were gaming in 28mm.

In 15mm, any variations in uniform between Prussian Landwehr and Russian Irregulars will be even less noticable. So even though I am already biased, I doubt you will have any problem convincing a sceptic.

rabbit

14Bore15 Dec 2012 5:38 p.m. PST

Finished 2nd Don Cossack Flying Btry and figures for 1/2 of 1st Don Cossack Btry (need gun models). Not bad for a plan to completion in 5 months.

Volunteer Fezian29 Dec 2012 10:15 a.m. PST

14Bore,

How about some photos???

14Bore29 Dec 2012 11:00 a.m. PST

I can't at this time, but would love to.

14Bore18 Jan 2020 7:17 a.m. PST

Keep thinking of old threads that finally can show what I did

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Robert le Diable27 Jan 2020 4:59 p.m. PST

In 15mm, isn't there still a packet of Cossack Artillery produced by Old Glory? Good figures in themselves, and some of them can readily be converted into civilians (though the metal itself is very hard).

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