generaljl | 01 Jul 2012 1:35 p.m. PST |
I am new to the battlefront rules. I am sending units out to be painted and I wanted to know about how many stands of Infantry are needed for the Americans, Germans, British and Russians. Also how many stands of US Airborne, German Paratroopers, and British Red Devils. BAsic rifle trrops not support. I am looking to play normal size games not skirmish.n |
MajorB | 01 Jul 2012 1:42 p.m. PST |
and I wanted to know about how many stands of Infantry are needed "Each miniature or stand represents a squad of men, specialized team, or 2-3 vehicles or guns." "The rules are designed so that each player can handle one or two maneuver elements (a maneuver element is roughly a company)." link OK, so then go here: bayonetstrength.150m.com |
PzGeneral | 01 Jul 2012 1:43 p.m. PST |
May I suggest checking here: link The Flames of War website has many briefings that will help you out. They have complete TO&Es for the combatants
. Dave |
Jemima Fawr | 01 Jul 2012 1:44 p.m. PST |
Sorry to ask, but with so many similarly-named games and companies around it pays to be sure; Are you asking about the 'Battlefront: WW2' rules by Fire & Fury Games? If so I'll happily answer your question, but you should find most of your questions already answered at the website fireandfury.com Sorry I can't provide any specific links from here, but the work computer blocks me from going to any sites with 'games' in the title. There are pages on getting started and there's a discussion forum, as well as heaps of army lists, historical orbats and scenarios which will include yet more historical orbats. |
Jemima Fawr | 01 Jul 2012 1:48 p.m. PST |
Heh, sure enough, the confusion had started before I even finished my reply! :o) Just to be clear: 'Flames of War' is a game by Battlefront Miniatures. 'Battlefront: WWII' is a game by Fire & Fury Games. There is also a game called 'Battleground: WW2' and a maker of computer wargames called 'Battlefront'
Ain't it great. :o) |
generaljl | 01 Jul 2012 1:48 p.m. PST |
Yes, Battlefront by Fire and Fury |
Jemima Fawr | 01 Jul 2012 2:05 p.m. PST |
Cool, in that case get over onto the forum. They're nice chaps, but watch out for that bloke who uses my name
I'm guessing you're looking at late war 1944-45? Here's some British company organisations to start you off. I won't include support elements, but do note that all of these would frequently have all sorts of things attached to them from battalion, brigade, division or higher level: British Infantry Company: 1x Commander 9x Infantry (1 with PIAT) 1x 2-inch Mortar British Para Company: 1x Commander 9x Infantry (up to 3 with PIAT) 1x 2-inch Mortar (though they had access to more if they wanted them) British Airlanding (glider) Company: 1x Commander 12x Infantry (2 with PIAT) 2x 2-inch Mortar (note that this is open to some debate – some sections were re-designated as 'scouts' and given extra Brens – I can't remember the details here now) British Motor Company: 1x Commander 1x 2-inch Mortar 1x White Scout Car or M5 Halftrack 9x Infantry (1 with PIAT) 3x M5 Halftrack 2x Infantry (1 with PIAT) – Scout Platoon 1x Bren LMG – Scout Platoon 1x 2-inch Mortar – Scout Platoon 4x Universal Carrier with MG – Scout Platoon Commando Troop (i.e. Company equivalent): 1x Commander 4x Infantry (1 with PIAT) 1x Bren LMG or Vickers 'K' Gun 1x 2-inch Mortar Note that I (and all the people I play with) slightly increase the transport capacity of most vehicles, so for example the White Scout Car above can transport 2 instead of the usual 1 and the halftrack can transport 3 instead of 2. It's a personal choice, but we like it better that way – and it saves a whole lot of money and painting! Each stand typically has 2 figures, but I'm starting to re-organise mine to conform to a friend's system that I like. He puts 3 figures to a 30mm square base for infantry squads and 2 figures to a 25mm square base for commanders, LMGs, 2-inch mortars, etc. Heavier weapons such as MMGs, 3-inch mortars, etc get 2-3 figures on a 30mm square base. |
Jemima Fawr | 01 Jul 2012 2:13 p.m. PST |
I'll also add the Infantry Battalion Carrier Platoon, as it was virtually a company in its own right: 1x Commander 2x Infantry (both with PIAT) 2x Bren LMG 2x 2-inch Mortar 7x Universal Carriers with MG From approx August 1944 onward; may replace 3x Carriers, 1x Infantry, 1x Bren & 1x 2-inch Mortar with 3x Wasp. I must admit that I usually reduce this to 5x Carriers and allow the 2-inch mortars to ride with another element. It better reflects the historical organisation of 4x sections plus HQ. In that case, the Wasp option would only be 2 Wasps. |
generaljl | 01 Jul 2012 2:30 p.m. PST |
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Jemima Fawr | 01 Jul 2012 2:35 p.m. PST |
No worries. As I said, get over to the BF:WWII forum and you'll find everything you need, as well as good guys who will offer their advice. If you're in the UK, we'll be doing a game at Bovington Tank Museum next weekend (7/8 July), which you're welcome to join. |
Griefbringer | 01 Jul 2012 2:46 p.m. PST |
As for the US/German/Soviet organisation charts, those tend to be quite well covered in the original rulebook. |
Historicalgamer | 01 Jul 2012 4:34 p.m. PST |
Anyone interested in buying these rules and card sets can email me at historicalgamer@aol.com. I have a complete set looking for a home. Keith |
R Brown | 01 Jul 2012 7:51 p.m. PST |
JL, Let me know where to send all your "lead". ;-) Robert |
Jemima Fawr | 02 Jul 2012 8:02 a.m. PST |
Right, back at my home computer now. Here are some basic Russian, US and German organisations, as well as info on basing: fireandfury.com/faq.shtml Heaps of orbats here: link Over 100 scenarios here, with a ton of historical orbats: link And the forum is here: link |
Andy P | 02 Jul 2012 8:10 a.m. PST |
British Airborne lists currently being re written along with the 1940 French and Belgian lists. Oh and I have some early war Scenarios to add as well. |
kevanG | 01 Aug 2012 2:01 a.m. PST |
Andy, IS there any ETA on the belgian lists? or even a provisional chasseurs one? I am getting some more belgians at the weekend! |
Andy P | 01 Aug 2012 4:16 a.m. PST |
Belgian Infantry Division is already posted, the Chasseurs is sort of ready, its just getting tidied up. If you want i can send it provisionally. |
kevanG | 01 Aug 2012 4:49 a.m. PST |
yes please
its chasseurs I am getting. Ive sent an e mail
check spam coz its hotmail |
PilGrim | 02 Aug 2012 1:53 a.m. PST |
Andy – I've lost your email with the orbats – can you resend please? Ken |
Jemima Fawr | 02 Aug 2012 5:02 a.m. PST |
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