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Personal logo Cardinal Hawkwood Supporting Member of TMP28 Jun 2012 5:09 p.m. PST

sorry for the clumsy title but essentially
"Which of Kurosawa's many movies has,in your opinion, the greatest application to the Wargame's table, and why?"
discuss , with reference to at least one of the cinematic masterpieces of Akira Kurosawa
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Personal logo Cardinal Hawkwood Supporting Member of TMP28 Jun 2012 5:12 p.m. PST

hai!!!!

Personal logo 20thmaine Supporting Member of TMP28 Jun 2012 5:14 p.m. PST

Ran

Personal logo Cardinal Hawkwood Supporting Member of TMP28 Jun 2012 5:15 p.m. PST

The Seven Samurai..on all levels..skirmish, role play ..amazing. movie perhaps I can convince my friend Tiger Zouave to make the scenery..

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14Bore28 Jun 2012 5:15 p.m. PST

Try this list
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Personal logo Cardinal Hawkwood Supporting Member of TMP28 Jun 2012 5:16 p.m. PST

any reason why you chose Ran?

ComradeCommissar28 Jun 2012 5:28 p.m. PST

I'd say Ran too. Mainly for the sheer scale of the battles:

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corporalpat28 Jun 2012 5:49 p.m. PST

I would choose Ran, for its stunning big battle effects, as well as the behind the scenes intrigue, tragedy and deceit that could be included in a game (besides I love King Lear!). However, Seven Samurai, with its cast of unique characters, is the ultimate Skirmish/Role Play game. Sorry, I can't limit to just one!

darthfozzywig Supporting Member of TMP28 Jun 2012 6:00 p.m. PST

Ran.

Personal logo taskforce58 Supporting Member of TMP28 Jun 2012 6:50 p.m. PST

Ran for big battles.
Seven Samurai for skirmish level games.

Ancestral Hamster28 Jun 2012 8:15 p.m. PST

Must agree with others who say Ran for big battles and Seven Samurai for skirmish. However, take a look at Kagemusha ( imdb.com/title/tt0080979 ). According to the IMDB, "Much of the film recounts actual historical events, including Shingen's death and the two-year secret, and the climactic Battle of Nagashino in 1575. Those scenes are also modeled closely on detailed accounts of the battle." So while it isn't exactly a documentary on the run-up to and the Battle of Nagashino, it is at least patterned on it. And then one can break out Samurai Battles or your preferred rules set and recreate Nagashino afterwards.

You know, I haven't watched Seven Samurai for a while. Perhaps it is time …

SECURITY MINISTER CRITTER28 Jun 2012 9:25 p.m. PST

Ran for the battles.

fenyan28 Jun 2012 10:55 p.m. PST

I've recently watched the big 3 epics, Ran, Kagemusha, Throne of Blood. In these movies the fighting is treated rather abstractly. I don't think these three really have much direct applicablity to the wargame table.

As for enjoyability of the story and inspiration I would rank them: Ran, Throne of Blood, Kagemusha. Ran by far above the other two.

Personal logo 20thmaine Supporting Member of TMP29 Jun 2012 2:10 a.m. PST

Yeah – Ran has big battles.

Kagemusha would be second choice.

Thtrone of blood is superb too.

Kurosawa = never a bad film experience.

rvandusen29 Jun 2012 3:00 a.m. PST

Like others I would say "Ran" for big battles or a campaign game, Seven Samurai for skirmish.

Rapier Miniatures29 Jun 2012 3:12 a.m. PST

Its Kurosawa, just watch them for inspiration.

Personal logo John the Greater Supporting Member of TMP29 Jun 2012 7:39 a.m. PST

I have to go with the herd and say Ran for the battles and Seven Samurai for skirmish and role playing.

kallman29 Jun 2012 10:27 a.m. PST

I simply concur with everyone else

Ran
Kagemusha
Seven Samurai

All three have their advantages for a miniature war game. Not mentioned but again for a great background and wonderful skirmish game do not forget Yojimbo, which is has perhaps been the most copied of Kurosawa's moives. i.e. "A Fist Full of Dollars", and "Last Man Standing".

Personal logo optional field Supporting Member of TMP29 Jun 2012 10:36 a.m. PST

Rashomon is clearly the most apt wargame movie. After all they run the same scenario time after time, and the rules change each time.

Yesthatphil29 Jun 2012 1:14 p.m. PST

I was very impressed first time I saw Ran … I've not seen anything in a wargame that makes me think wargamers or game designers (and you can add most figure designers too) _get it.

… and I can't see me having the time to do the research and development myself for at least, say, 5 more years, minimum …

So the occasional 'art' film will have to do for me …

I am more than happy for some things not to have to become a wargame (at least, not until they have been thought about and explored at a worthwhile level ..)..

Personal logo etotheipi Sponsoring Member of TMP29 Jun 2012 2:04 p.m. PST

Seven Samurai … I'm a skirmish guy.

mad monkey 129 Jun 2012 5:25 p.m. PST

Not Kurosawa…Heaven & Earth. Some of the best samurai big battles on film.

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