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Prince Alberts Revenge25 Jun 2012 6:24 a.m. PST

What are the major differences between these two verisons? I have the original (although never played it), not sure what the 2nd version adds. Thanks!

Who asked this joker25 Jun 2012 7:36 a.m. PST

Ah the bug! (Last post got eaten) So this review will answer your question.

link

Scroll down until you see the 2nd edition review.

John

Personal logo Gonsalvo Supporting Member of TMP25 Jun 2012 8:47 a.m. PST

Summarizing, the changes are much more in the way of tweaks to an already solid system, rather than wholesale changes. I think virtually all of them improve the game, however.

The biggest change, IMHO, is the change in the Melee cad definition, which canges this card from a fairly "ho-hum" event to a big deal, at least once the armies are in engagement range.

Peter

Personal logo PzGeneral Supporting Member of TMP25 Jun 2012 11:05 a.m. PST

FANTASTIC set of rules! They are what got me started into Napoleonic gaming.

I highly recommend them thumbs up

Dave

Personal logo PzGeneral Supporting Member of TMP25 Jun 2012 11:07 a.m. PST

BTW: We also use them for the American War of Independance. And if I ever restart a stalled project, for the Sudan Wars…..

Dave

Dave Gamer25 Jun 2012 7:03 p.m. PST

I finally picked up the 2nd edition recently myself (ran an ACW game a couple of Historicons ago using 1st edition). As stated, 2nd edition is pretty much the same as the 1st edition with some minor tweaks. Off the top of my head…

- Some things that needed clarification have been added (like, How do you cross a bridge assuming you're not already in road column?; how do fences in the ACW affect combat?)

- As stated previously, the melee card now lets you move into melee.

- Any infantry or cavalry unit in any formation can move into melee on a Move card with an Even die roll (previously it was only cavalry and infantry in attack column that could do that).

- You can use the Tactical Advantage card for any die roll except Army Morale.

- Blow your Army Morale die roll and the game is over (previously there were various levels of missing the Army Morale roll)

- How skirmish order is represented has been changed.

- Dismounting and remounting is covered in detail

- There's a whole section in the book to set up random battles. A points system allows you to pick relatively even armies (still subject to quality rolls) and then you make some more die rolls to see if some of your units got delayed and come on as reinforcements, etc.. There's also a small linked-scenario campaign generator where you play 3 games with your forces being modified for each successive game based on what happened in the previous game.

So if you like the system, yes, you want the 2nd edition.

John Leahy26 Jun 2012 9:30 a.m. PST

If you are a fan of Field of Battle it's a 'must have'! I recently played a modified version of the ACW Battle Gaines Mill and used it. Melee is now much more decisive. Cavalry is also improved. I am crazy about these rules. grin

Thanks,

John

JeffGrein26 Jun 2012 3:44 p.m. PST

One other point is that under 2nd edition melee continues until one side looses at least one UI.

vtsaogames26 Jun 2012 5:08 p.m. PST

Where does one buy these rules today?
I'm having trouble finding Piquet in the internet.
Some race car driver pops up instead.

Dave Gamer27 Jun 2012 2:54 a.m. PST

You can buy it here --> link

Note – I searched for Piquet Field of Battle -Nelson

vtsaogames27 Jun 2012 4:27 a.m. PST

Thank you.

mashrewba29 Jun 2012 9:29 a.m. PST

I have just received mine (the next day!!!) from Caliver in the UK. These look very exciting on the first read through -I can see why they inspire a fanatical fan base.

mashrewba29 Jun 2012 9:34 a.m. PST

I have just received mine from Caliver in the UK (the book arrived the next day!!). These look very exciting on the first read through -I can see why they inspire a fanatical fan base.
One difference that is immediately apparent is FOB2 is a better quality book with colour pictures and good quality cards.

John Leahy29 Jun 2012 1:14 p.m. PST

I wouldn't say we were fanatic. Merely ENTUSIASTIC! grin FOB is a great set of rules. I know you'll enjoy your time with them. Personally, I'm sorry that there are a number of folks who won't try them based on their experience with Piquet. Piquet introduced revolutionary new concepts. Brent Oman created Field of Battle which refined and improved Piquet by light years. I remain convinced that 20 years from now gamers will be playing or talking about very few sets of rules which have stood the test of time. Field of Battle will be one of those.

Thanks,

John

Hovis36628 Apr 2019 12:00 p.m. PST

If you prefer you can get a pdf copy if you email Brent Oman direct at: brentoman@q.com. He sent me a copy attached to email – pay by paypal.

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