Cacique Caribe | 23 Jun 2012 4:42 p.m. PST |
Look at this man's awesome work!!!
TMP link link link link link Inspiring stuff, isn't it? So . . . if I was going to follow in his footsteps, does this floor plan look fun enough for gaming?
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link Too big? Too small? Too ambitious? Other suggestions? My space is limited to a maximum 2' x 4' area so, if it's going to be a multilevel project at all, all the levels will have to fit in that space. What do you guys think? Dan |
FABET01 | 23 Jun 2012 4:50 p.m. PST |
Ambitious for a first try, but if you get it done should be a lot of fun to paly on. But
Why is Speed Racers Mach5 on level 2? |
Ravenstar | 23 Jun 2012 4:54 p.m. PST |
very cool , can't wait to see the finish set, and the Mach5 really surprised me.lol |
Cacique Caribe | 23 Jun 2012 4:58 p.m. PST |
"Ambitious for a first try" What should I start with? Got any cool options that would allow me a bit of fun gaming? I'm willing to consider any and all. "But
Why is Speed Racers Mach5 on level 2?" LOL. I didn't even notice it until now!!! Thanks, Dan |
thabear | 23 Jun 2012 5:37 p.m. PST |
But
Why is Speed Racers Mach5 on level 2? Because the Torana is down on level 1 blocking in the Kingswood with the Monaro in front of it .
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Rrobbyrobot | 23 Jun 2012 5:39 p.m. PST |
There he goes. There goes Speed Racer. He's a spaceman on wheels? But it's sooo cool! I mean, it looks like it belongs there. Maybe some design changes to the Mach 5? Make it more spaceworthy? |
MrHarold | 23 Jun 2012 6:16 p.m. PST |
Haha, thanks! I found using the pre-scored tiles made it a lot easier! |
Mako11 | 23 Jun 2012 10:00 p.m. PST |
Looks like a good start to me. According to your multi-level deckplan, and assuming you are doing this in 15mm/18mm scale, the large ship scales out to be about 22" long, assuming 5 feet per square (1.5 meters, per Traveller), and 3mm's per foot. So, looks fairly do-able to me. Obviously, you could save table space by not modeling the areas other than the deckplans, but if you have the time, space, and money, modeling them too would be preferable, since it would look great. Good luck on the project. |
Duck Crusader | 23 Jun 2012 10:42 p.m. PST |
Wow, just wow. Beautiful piece, and it also illustrates how hard even small interstellar craft would be to depict on the table perfectly. Particularly like that he even included heads, too many people seem to forget that. Not like you can squat out the airlock. |
Cacique Caribe | 24 Jun 2012 4:10 a.m. PST |
Duck Crusader: "Not like you can squat out the airlock" You could, but people would be claiming to see more moons in space than usual. :) Dan |
Mooseworks8 | 24 Jun 2012 5:31 a.m. PST |
What games would you play? |
FABET01 | 24 Jun 2012 7:27 a.m. PST |
"Ambitious for a first try"What should I start with? Got any cool options that would allow me a bit of fun gaming? I'm willing to consider any and all.
Maybe just start with the shuttle. Give you a chance to work out how you want to handle hatchs and engine details or even if you're enjoying yourself doing it. I've always struggled with how to represent the hull. The flat outer walls seemed to detract from the visualization. Game options: Traveller, Star Wars Mini Battles, Shockforce, Space Hulk (modified). Dark City Games have Sci-fi version of Meleee/Wizard. |
BlackWidowPilot | 24 Jun 2012 12:59 p.m. PST |
It's a two-seater grav car, people, not some low tech wheeled conveyance
Leland R. Erickson |
Mako11 | 24 Jun 2012 1:28 p.m. PST |
With a bit of care, and effort, the blue and/or pink foam of the vessel's hull could be easily carved, and sanded to shape. It's gonna be messy though. Wear a dustmask, and goggles. |
Cacique Caribe | 24 Jun 2012 2:24 p.m. PST |
FABET01: "Maybe just start with the shuttle. Give you a chance to work out how you want to handle hatchs and engine details or even if you're enjoying yourself doing it." Good point. Makes lots of sense. Hmm, now to look for a proper-sized little ship to make. I guess I should start looking here: TMP link Dan |
Lsutehall | 26 Jun 2012 2:10 p.m. PST |
I agree with Mako11, blue foam may be the way to go here. With some dowels and suitably reinforced holes (brass tube maybe) you could build the entire ship such that it could be stacked together, which would be better for storage. Assuming you made it from, say, one inch thick levels, it wouldn't be that tall either. I followed the links, and ended up at the artist's deviantart page, where I found a second ship with deckplans, that would make a good companion piece (afterall, the boarding parties have to come from somewhere, right?) : link link link |
Cacique Caribe | 26 Jun 2012 9:29 p.m. PST |
Wow. Very, very nice!!! Dan |
Cacique Caribe | 27 Jun 2012 1:50 a.m. PST |
Guys, Maybe the exterior doesn't really have to be carved out of foam after all. These fellas make their alternative seem so easy:
Lots more on their project here: link Dan |
Lsutehall | 27 Jun 2012 4:48 a.m. PST |
I saw that manta the other day, its certainly an impressive build. I've scratchbuilt in a similar manner before, and its not too hard. If you were to make the exterior like that, then the interior could be made the same way as Mr Harold's. Infact you could build a gameable layout first, and build the exterior later as and when you have the time. |
Tensen01 | 25 Nov 2012 1:14 p.m. PST |
Just came across this, I wanted to say, being the artist who designed and created the Phoenix, the Mach 5 is there because one of the characters in the Serenity Game this ship came from had a Mach 5 themed skiff. link the man with the flock of seagulls haircut Would absolutely LOVE seeing this ship brought together in 3d. |
Cacique Caribe | 05 Dec 2012 9:49 a.m. PST |
Tensen01, yours? Awesome! Love that car. Guys, how about this alternate concept? What if one took TWO of these clear 16-inch plastic party trays, and then cut off about 3 inches (20%) from one end (aft), cut so that the two halves can fit one on top of the other?
link Could that shell become a good starting point, to then subdivide, furnish and decorate? I wonder if the top side could be made to look a little bit like this Lost In Space movie Jupiter 2, if similar panels and greeblies can be found or made:
I would still love to duplicate some of Mr. Harold's work for the interior layout within the roughly 13" by 11" shell. What do you guys think? Thanks, Dan TMP link |
MrHarold | 05 Dec 2012 10:17 a.m. PST |
Everytime I see this thread it reminds me that I need to finish this I would still love to duplicate some of Mr. Harold's work for the interior layout within the roughly 13" by 11" shell. You know, it's really quite easy, the cheating part is that I used the plasticard with the tiles on it. I just snapped it off at the right lengths and glued it down. The effect looks nice, but the technique is really easy. |
Cacique Caribe | 27 May 2013 5:14 p.m. PST |
Mr. Harold, Have you finished it? Would love to see the final product. Thanks, Dan |
Mako11 | 27 May 2013 5:23 p.m. PST |
I like the plastic party try idea, especially since you can keep some of the parts clear, so you can see out of, and into the vehicle itself, making the model look a bit more realistic. Looks to me like that may be how they made the new, Jupiter 2 model. |
MrHarold | 27 May 2013 5:46 p.m. PST |
Oi, haven't finished yet
too many projects! One of these days. I think. |
Ravenstar | 27 May 2013 6:42 p.m. PST |
love the Phoenix, i have a smaller version, a bounty hunter ship. I started with a 6 " x 3" interior and build from there. 3 levels. hope mine looks as good when its done. i look forward to seeing Mrharolds when done. chris |
War Monkey | 27 May 2013 9:45 p.m. PST |
@ CC Found this for you hope it will help link |
War Monkey | 27 May 2013 9:51 p.m. PST |
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Cacique Caribe | 27 May 2013 10:37 p.m. PST |
Very cool!!!! War Monkey - The link on your 9:45 post shows exactly what I hope to accomplish one day. Ravenstar - Got pics of what your version looks like so far? Mako11 - That oval party tray could be used for something like this, I'm sure:
link Thanks, Dan |
Gunner Dunbar | 27 May 2013 11:14 p.m. PST |
Great work, would love to do something similar one day. |
Cacique Caribe | 30 May 2013 7:36 p.m. PST |
This one is too cute to pass up:
link Dan |
Mako11 | 30 May 2013 11:47 p.m. PST |
Ooooo, I like that one better Dan. I'm always a sucker for some nice looking curves. It appears to me that you could probably use that styrofoam space shuttle glider I mentioned above (the $6.00 USD one), and by adding a bit of foam, filler, styrene sheeting, etc., and clipping the wings a bit, you could come up with a pretty decent replica of the above. If you wanted to be a bit more creative, you could probably even cut, sand, and/or file/plane the fuselage down to make it a bit more curvaceous, if desired. |
infojunky | 01 Jun 2013 10:25 p.m. PST |
There are some stealable ideas here
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Cacique Caribe | 09 Jun 2013 2:20 p.m. PST |
Guys, Check out this "Bellflower" (a Sandfly class transport):
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link link Hmm
. I think that my crazy plastic plate idea might work on that one too, for everything from tip to the front of main engine:
At 16 inches in length, that plate represents over 130 feet in length, to a 15-18mm fella that is. More than enough to serve as the basic hull frame for a 90-foot Sandfly class transport.
More (including some deck plans): link What do you think? Dan |
War Monkey | 09 Jun 2013 2:51 p.m. PST |
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Cacique Caribe | 09 Jun 2013 2:54 p.m. PST |
Hmm. I think that, for that kind of cutting job, I may have to dig my Dremmel out of one of the boxes in my attic. Dan PS. By the way, check this out. Fans are weird people: YouTube link vimeo.com/50144447 |
tkdguy | 09 Jun 2013 3:34 p.m. PST |
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War Monkey | 09 Jun 2013 3:59 p.m. PST |
CC Thanks for the links, saved them |
Cacique Caribe | 09 Jun 2013 4:44 p.m. PST |
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Cacique Caribe | 13 Jun 2013 12:43 p.m. PST |
And, about what crew for your freetrader transport
TMP link Dan |
Mako11 | 13 Jun 2013 3:33 p.m. PST |
Looks to me like you may want to match it to Inara's shuttle, nestled on top. If so, I'll bet it'll be closer to 20" – 24" long, which still works for me, sizewise. Of course, I'm not building it. |
Cacique Caribe | 15 Jun 2013 6:27 p.m. PST |
Well, though not entirely scratch-built
TMP link Dan |
Cacique Caribe | 17 Jul 2013 4:02 p.m. PST |
Mr. Harold, I think you've better get busy: TMP link link Well, I think we should all get busy. Dan |
MrHarold | 17 Jul 2013 4:11 p.m. PST |
I know! I'm behind the curve! |
War Monkey | 17 Jul 2013 4:32 p.m. PST |
I think that guy put us all behind the curve! puts anything I was planning to shame. |
Cacique Caribe | 02 Sep 2013 9:33 p.m. PST |
I know there's no interior room to this one here, but there's gotta be something that could be learned from this: link Dan |
Joes Shop | 03 Sep 2013 3:45 a.m. PST |
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Cacique Caribe | 24 Sep 2013 2:00 p.m. PST |
Mr. Harold and the rest of you guys
Check out what this fella did, as he built up his very own version of Serenity: link Dan |