sneakgun | 11 Jun 2012 7:27 p.m. PST |
a. I would commit Seppuku first. b. Sure, not a problem. c. My panties would be in such a twist, my head would explode. d. The usual silly comments, boobies, etc. e. I would offer to paint them for my opponent. f. I would give my opponent a painted army to use. |
flooglestreet | 11 Jun 2012 7:35 p.m. PST |
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SECURITY MINISTER CRITTER | 11 Jun 2012 7:44 p.m. PST |
g. Primed. Yes as long as the army shows progress! |
Toshach | 11 Jun 2012 7:44 p.m. PST |
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J Womack 94 | 11 Jun 2012 7:45 p.m. PST |
I'll go with Critter's option g. |
Saginaw | 11 Jun 2012 7:49 p.m. PST |
B, although it may be somewhat distracting. |
Coyotepunc and Hatshepsuut | 11 Jun 2012 7:51 p.m. PST |
Yes, but I would mock them mercilessly. |
John the OFM | 11 Jun 2012 7:59 p.m. PST |
I would be very snotty about it. However, I have never had that problem. In our goup it's an unwriten law that they be painted. |
Robert V | 11 Jun 2012 7:59 p.m. PST |
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Florida Tory | 11 Jun 2012 8:00 p.m. PST |
f. Our local group decided back in the early 1970s we had enough painted troops to impose a policy that troops could only be used if and as they were painted. We also have always made any troops in the group available to either side. Both were good policies that have withstood the test of time. Rick |
cherrypicker | 11 Jun 2012 8:08 p.m. PST |
I will go with G, although I did play at one club and people had the same figures blue tacked to the base for 2 or more years :-( Jules |
Lentulus | 11 Jun 2012 8:13 p.m. PST |
h. all units with unpainted figures get a -1 for morale, or whatever penalties the rules allow for unpaid, unloved and poorly led troops. Because, really, they know they aren't loved. |
TMPWargamerabbit | 11 Jun 2012 8:17 p.m. PST |
After a spray paint can bombardment sure
. blue, brown
whatever to start the process. Never played with primed or unpainted. I go with printed counters first if needed, WR |
Sgt Slag | 11 Jun 2012 8:20 p.m. PST |
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BigNickR | 11 Jun 2012 8:30 p.m. PST |
I point out that they went through all the trouble of buying them, why not paint 'em. then offer to do so. usually results in some side income for me and a challange |
Calico Bill | 11 Jun 2012 8:38 p.m. PST |
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sillypoint | 11 Jun 2012 8:40 p.m. PST |
Depends, at a convention/tournament game? A unit or two on the side? I must admit I think I'm becoming less tolerant, as I often provide both sides to games, I think players should make the effort to have things painted before the game. |
Phillius | 11 Jun 2012 8:48 p.m. PST |
b. It's my army that counts. |
its only a flesh wound | 11 Jun 2012 8:51 p.m. PST |
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Chuckaroobob | 11 Jun 2012 8:54 p.m. PST |
B. Every frikkin game. Some guys just hate to paint. Maybe it's like vampires and garlic. At least my army is beautiful! |
Rudi the german | 11 Jun 2012 11:32 p.m. PST |
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Cardinal Hawkwood | 11 Jun 2012 11:38 p.m. PST |
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Vis Bellica | 11 Jun 2012 11:42 p.m. PST |
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thabear | 12 Jun 2012 1:39 a.m. PST |
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BigLee | 12 Jun 2012 1:44 a.m. PST |
b. Reluctantly in the past c. Only when I lose to unpainted lead f. My current solution BigLee BLMAblog.com |
Angel Barracks | 12 Jun 2012 2:03 a.m. PST |
Yes. I would rather they be painted as I like the visual aspect of the game but having unpainted miniatures just makes mine look even better! |
Raynman | 12 Jun 2012 3:36 a.m. PST |
Depends, mostly I'm with Critter and G. But if this is something that you have been planning for a while and you managed to paint yours and they didn't, then no. I'd toss the lazy bum out! |
Dynaman8789 | 12 Jun 2012 4:00 a.m. PST |
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Cardinal Ximenez | 12 Jun 2012 4:20 a.m. PST |
Depends. If it's a young newcomer who just wanted to play ASAP I would play but would also provide encouragement to paint them. If it was someone who should know better, no. |
Militia Pete | 12 Jun 2012 4:36 a.m. PST |
Depends if we needed them on the table that badly. |
Flashman14 | 12 Jun 2012 4:50 a.m. PST |
C. In not in it for competition alone. I want it all or nothing. And why must selection C be worded in such a terrible way? It's the visuals that got people into this thing in the first place. |
etotheipi | 12 Jun 2012 5:31 a.m. PST |
Yes. However, I would try to convince my opponent/the ref that those figs deserved a penalty for entering combat unprepared. Very few armies fought well without their pants; even fewer without their skin. |
alien BLOODY HELL surfer | 12 Jun 2012 5:36 a.m. PST |
b – sometimes unpainted is better than a messy base paintjob that has been dipped (shudder) |
Gennorm | 12 Jun 2012 5:54 a.m. PST |
B. but must be based and undercoated and being used as an interim to get playing quickly, then I complement him on fielding the best painted army he's used against me. |
Garryowen | 12 Jun 2012 6:01 a.m. PST |
A without a doubt, not even knowing what Seppuku is. I don't go to the time,effort and expense I do with my terrain and figures to have the visual effect ruined by unpainted figures on the table. Tom |
Martin | 12 Jun 2012 6:13 a.m. PST |
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Frederick | 12 Jun 2012 6:28 a.m. PST |
b) until we can get to f) That is to say, will use unpainted figs until someone gets enough painted figs – we have done this with a couple of wargaming periods – for example, our first Ancients battles saw naked painted Celts against black-primed legions |
WarWizard | 12 Jun 2012 6:33 a.m. PST |
Only if my painted figures get a +1 for all rolls. |
ming31 | 12 Jun 2012 7:02 a.m. PST |
I would play but abuse them they entire game . As a personal rule I never put unpainted on the table .. I would rather use/play against prepainted figures. |
Hevy Phyzx | 12 Jun 2012 7:04 a.m. PST |
b – but it's usually not an issue. While I have played against folks that literally bought their minis moments before and just wanted to get a game in before heading home, this is an exception. "'roun' These Parts" [as that American colloquialism goes] there seems to be at least enough personal pride with most of the gamers I have encountered that unless they are really jonesing for a game, they will at least hit their minis with a primer coat, slap a little color and and dip them to make them "presentable" in a fashion. The majority of folks I encounter actually do a decent job of putting their best effort into their minis. I know of one fella who is not a particularly good painter, but he'll be damned if he would play with unpainted lead. He is always in awe of the quality of his opponents' artistry, but he himself takes great pride in never fielding "unpainted" armies. I always compliment him on his improving efforts and since he's decided to use the dip technique, his armies have a much improved appearance (based on his previous efforts). We both agree that "The Game" is the thing, though and neither of us will turn down a game simply because our opponent hasn't had the chance to paint up her/his army. Andy Welkley "Your Phrendlee Hevy Phyzx T-chrr" |
Patrick Sexton | 12 Jun 2012 7:05 a.m. PST |
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Goose666 | 12 Jun 2012 7:21 a.m. PST |
B.. I cannot really see my self saying to someone at the club.. "sorry mate, you cannot game till all your army is painted".. Whats the point. Yes a painted army looks nice. But figures are only "representations" after all. I would encourage them to get them painted. But not going to scorn them for not.. |
richarDISNEY | 12 Jun 2012 7:32 a.m. PST |
G, but they are in a for lots of ribbing
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21eRegt | 12 Jun 2012 7:52 a.m. PST |
c unless they are at least primed, then g. Then I would just remind him every ten minutes about aesoterics. |
StCrispin | 12 Jun 2012 8:59 a.m. PST |
i play games for my own enjoyment, so if i don't let my friends play with unpainted figures, then i don't get to play either. it sounds absurd to not play with someone because they are not into or don't have time to paint. naturally, i am refering to games at my house with friends. at a convention or something, that would be different. so b. |
Sergeant Crunch | 12 Jun 2012 9:32 a.m. PST |
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LeadLair76 | 12 Jun 2012 9:39 a.m. PST |
B. but I would prefer to see paint. |
ordinarybass | 12 Jun 2012 11:19 a.m. PST |
If it was a friend, a casual game, and they're in the process of painting their figures, then it's B. Otherwise F. I'm in this hobby for the spectacle of painted toy soldiers clashing on evocative terrain. If you don't have any, then by all means use some of mine, and if you're having trouble with painting, I'll share some tips and send you home with a jar of minwax dip. However, I've got zero interest in playing against unpainted figures. Our club is a painted-figs-only kind of place, though that can include prepainted figs and we have no standards for what's "good painting". At the same time we're about the friendliest bunch you'd ever meet. A newbie could walk in with no wargaming experience and they'd be handed a warband to play with for the evening and someone would take the time to teach them the rules. Just wanted to point out that "painted only" doesn't mean you have to be a Moby about it. |
ChicChocMtdRifles | 12 Jun 2012 11:27 a.m. PST |
only if mine are at least primed, first. With my vision, they'd sure enough look all alike, both sides unpainted. |
Gabriel Landowski | 12 Jun 2012 11:58 a.m. PST |
We required three shades of color, more to encourage us to paint them vs having panties in a wringer
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